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Author Topic: Over The Rhine drops an f-bomb...  (Read 2026 times)
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« Reply #40 on: July 23, 2003, 08:46:30 PM »

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Yeah, Jeffrey *did* quote that lyric. It's in the song "Changes Come"... should still be there...?
I don't think it is. I searched the page.  So, now I don't know what the context for the word was.
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« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2003, 09:06:12 PM »

Hmmm... interesting. He edited that part out. I wonder why...
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« Reply #42 on: July 24, 2003, 09:25:40 AM »

Never underestimate the power of self-righteous Christians who think that any site with a 'naughty' word on it cannot be a Christian site...

Picturing DvChWi deliberately searching a page for a swear word is amusing, though Wink
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« Reply #43 on: July 24, 2003, 11:30:15 AM »

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Picturing DvChWi deliberately searching a page for a swear word is amusing, though Wink
Yes, I wanted to see these lyrics to see what exactly what the use was.  Though, I couldn't bring myself to type the whole word into the search box, so I just did "fuc" laugh  
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« Reply #44 on: July 24, 2003, 11:43:43 AM »

Isn't it funny the way we're conditioned? Even though it was for a legitimate purpose and nobody else would see it or know about it (except if you came here and told us =D), you still didn't type the whole word. (I probably would have done the same thing).
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« Reply #45 on: July 24, 2003, 01:58:16 PM »

The context of the word is almost identical to the way Bono used it on Pop. Karin says she dreams of having a son someday, but sometimes she thinks that "the world is too fucked up for a firstborn son." So very similar to "Wake Up Dead Man."
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« Reply #46 on: July 24, 2003, 03:47:26 PM »

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Picturing DvChWi deliberately searching a page for a swear word is amusing, though Wink
LOL.

A funny picture, indeed.

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« Reply #47 on: July 24, 2003, 03:55:36 PM »

Funnier still because none of you knows what I look like.  You're probably picturing a tall, handsome person..... Wink    
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« Reply #48 on: July 24, 2003, 04:05:09 PM »

okay...back to the subject, tall handsome one...

i agree with a lot of what josh has said about this.  i think that if you use swear words very rarely, then it makes a big impact when you actually do "drop an f-bomb."  it tells other people that you really mean what you are saying.  in my opinion, sometimes it's the only word that fits a situation or song.  if it is not overused, it can actually have a lot more power; sometimes that power is necessary when describing things like sin, etc.

at the same time, i want to make the point that non-christians do notice when we don't cuss a lot.  i have several non-christian friends with pretty dirty mouths, and they've asked me before why i don't cuss.
people will notice, i promise.
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« Reply #49 on: July 24, 2003, 04:39:51 PM »

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i agree with a lot of what josh has said about this.  i think that if you use swear words very rarely, then it makes a big impact when you actually do "drop an f-bomb."  it tells other people that you really mean what you are saying.  in my opinion, sometimes it's the only word that fits a situation or song.  if it is not overused, it can actually have a lot more power; sometimes that power is necessary when describing things like sin, etc.
Hmm...by that same logic, if I killed someone to get their attention because I haven't killed before, it would be OK, right?

I know this is an extreme example, but using traditionally inappropriate words just to shock or startle people isn't what I consider to be a good usage. Though you're right; when U2 swears, it get's people's attention. With some 'artists' today, it's more shocking when they DON'T swear...

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at the same time, i want to make the point that non-christians do notice when we don't cuss a lot.  i have several non-christian friends with pretty dirty mouths, and they've asked me before why i don't cuss.
people will notice, i promise.

Seconded.
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« Reply #50 on: July 24, 2003, 06:37:38 PM »

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at the same time, i want to make the point that non-christians do notice when we don't cuss a lot. i have several non-christian friends with pretty dirty mouths, and they've asked me before why i don't cuss.
people will notice, i promise.

Yeah, I've had the same experience, linds. Interestingly enough, despite the fact that they may not be offense, cuss words are still vulgarities. As ambassadors of Christ, is it right to use them frequently because the people around us do not find them offensive? I think something larger is at stake here. There *are* a set of words set apart from the rest of the English language. Despite whether they are offensive or not, in most circles, someone who does not use them causes an occasional raised eyebrow. If nothing else, this observation deserves to be considered. (Good point linds.)  
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« Reply #52 on: September 21, 2003, 09:47:28 PM »

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Welcome to the phorum, and I can see no better way to start out than with a very thorough post like that  =)



On the old forum we had a discussion about this as well, and I recall Andree pointing out that when he was with inner city kids or people who grew up their entire life using swear words, you couldn't derail a meaningful discussion to talk about swearing, so sometimes it was better to accept it or even engage in it to better communicate with someone who is seeking Christ. I think this is a good reminder, and I certainly don't think God would smile on the decision to not swear if it meant that we didn't communicate His word as effectively to someone who needed it...
Now that just almost insults me 'cause I grew up an inner-city kid.  But I'll forgive you for that one, Andree...lol...  

Did you really say that?

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« Reply #53 on: September 22, 2003, 06:32:20 AM »

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« Reply #54 on: September 22, 2003, 12:31:20 PM »

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« Reply #55 on: September 26, 2003, 07:11:57 PM »

Me an my friends say "shit" a lot. Like "grab your shit" or when something stupid happens, "that's shitty", or when you get beatebn at chess, "aw shit!"

Some people are offended by us referring to the buttocks as "ass", but we try not to say it around those people. After all, my mom used to get offended if we said "butt". That was ten years ago. She doesn't blink an eyelid if someone say "ass" now.

As for anything stronger, nada. I'm not sure about the morality of the situation, but if you say "damn", "hell" in the wrong context, or especially "fuck", then people will start shooting you with small projectiles and rodents.

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« Reply #56 on: September 26, 2003, 09:22:32 PM »

Heh, the so-called f-bomb is tossed around as casually as any other word here on campus. And ditto on the 'butt' thing, though I still think my mom wouldn't like ass. She doesn't like people saying 'pissed' either, though it's practially everyday vernacular any more.
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