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« on: July 28, 2003, 10:08:09 AM »
After the little downhere incident and getting some nasty responses to my Everyone review, I started this thread at the Promontory board, and hey! People are actually taking my side on this issue! Maybe I'm not as cruel as I thought...
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2003, 10:12:27 AM »
No, you're not cruel, you're just not fanboy-friendly (I like that term, bdg...props for introducing me to it)
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2003, 10:43:19 AM »
"fanboy-friendly" I like it!  =D

Well, Josh, all good writers stir up controversy.  Wink  
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2003, 09:15:43 PM »
Let's go a bit deeper here. Allow me to ask the same question that I asked at the Promontory board: Is it inappropriate to critique worship music?

As Wilcox astutely pointed out on the other board, a clarification of definitions is in order: Critiquing has more to do with improving the work in question; it's not judgmental. Rather, it's constructive. That's what we're talking about here. Not criticizing, which is more akin to whining and finger-pointing.

Another clarification: I am not talking about sitting in church on Sunday morning and critiquing the service. I'm talking about recorded music.

My answer is obviously that no, critiquing praise and worship music is not innapropriate. In fact, it's very much needed. I'll elaborate, but let's get some other opinions first.
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2003, 03:18:03 PM »
Once they put the album on sale for actual, physical money, they're valid targets for criticism as far as I'm concerned. I wouldn't call this a hard and fast rule, but I think it covers most of the basics.
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2003, 03:27:57 PM »
Eh, I don't have a problem with critiqueing something that's absolutely free, though.  

Example:  The Pumpkins album "Machina II" was only availiable through download, trading, and B+P (I B+P'ed for it).  It was an interesting choice of distribution method, in any event, and is still absolutely free to all.  So, a review then, would answer not the question "is it worth buying" but "is it worth the time to download, trade, or what have you".  Even a sermon can be critiqued..."was it worth the time to listen to this guy?...or all we all dumber for listening to him?"
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2003, 02:58:48 PM »
A valid point. Like I said, my 'rule' only covered the basics of the question at hand
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