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« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2006, 09:30:28 PM » |
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This font. That I'm typing right now.
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« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2006, 09:33:17 PM » |
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So do you mean the font that appears in the textbox, or the font that appears after you've posted something?
Sorry. The font that appears upon posting, not in the text box. It looks normal sized in the quoted part, but the post part looks huge.
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« Reply #42 on: April 22, 2006, 09:57:05 PM » |
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Heh, what's a man to do? Schil tells me that the font is too small; you say it's too large. In the stylesheet, I have the font set to "normal". Thus, in theory, the size of the font should be what it would be if the web page specified no font information whatsoever. I say in theory because my knowledge of CSS and HTML is a little sketchy when it comes to their inner workings. The way that most forum software does it is that they just supply an absolute size. For example, as I glance at the (terribly-formatted) IPB CSS, I see that <tr>, <td>, and <table> tags are given a default size of 8.5pt. To me this seems ridiculously small. Firefox allows the user to set a 'minimum font size' (which seems to only work some of the time; I'm not entirely sure why but I could probably hazard a couple guesses if pressed), so I suspect that the font in many cases would be sized upwards. SMF by default works a little differently. It uses predefined attributes of small, normal, large, etc. These are browser-specific and user-settable (in some cases), but I think normal is generally 10pt or so on most browsers. So essentially, by preserving this usage I was trying to make the Phorum slightly more user-configurable. By changing what the values of normal, small, and large mean for you, you could alter the appearance of the Phorum as a whole. The downside, of course, is that some people complain "The text is too small", and others say "The text is too large". I'm guessing you don't notice it because many (most?) sites force you to use their own font size that they have determined to be the best, but then when you find a site that does, something might seem amiss. So the long answer to your question is yes, I can do something about the font size. I don't really have the time or patience to do experimentation right now, but when I do, I will try to fix the different fonts at specific values. This means that everybody will see the same thing I do so if I assume that my preference is approximately equal to others' preferences, I can set it to a good value. Hard-coding these values is frowned upon, but that doesn't stop most people 
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« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2006, 01:07:12 AM » |
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Well, it's not that big of a deal and certainly nothing that needs a ton of attention from you. I only posted because it looked so much different to me than the previous forum did so I thought I'd bring it up. But either way, I'll get used to it. No biggie. 
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« Reply #44 on: July 27, 2006, 03:28:49 PM » |
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user ranking suggestion for 2468: "who do we appreciate?" just for cheesy fun as is our wont. 
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« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2006, 04:43:55 PM » |
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Not a bad idea. Of course, with my laziness, you know I won't get around to it until after you're no longer that rank.
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« Reply #46 on: July 27, 2006, 05:05:05 PM » |
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« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2006, 05:21:11 PM » |
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« Reply #48 on: October 23, 2006, 08:08:51 AM » |
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« Reply #49 on: October 25, 2006, 03:19:12 PM » |
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RO: the post before mine is the first random observation in three months.
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« Reply #50 on: October 25, 2006, 03:24:09 PM » |
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Don't make fun of poor Harenil to his face just because he can't read...oh, wait, it's OK, because he can't read what we're saying.
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« Reply #51 on: November 01, 2006, 01:35:43 AM » |
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This is freaky.
I've made two posts in the wrong thread, and it's not because I can't read, it's because of errors. Vlad, wanna find out what happened? Why are my posts going to the wrong threads? I swear I never even opened this thread before OR the food thread.
What's weird, is looking back... this isn't what I was responding to. I actually admit to posting based on an earlier page in the RO thread, without first looking forward, but I have NO CLUE why it ended up in this thread.
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« Reply #52 on: November 01, 2006, 09:33:52 AM » |
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You're just not clicking the right link  The << previous next >> links in the right-hand corner navigate between threads. To navigate among pages in the same thread, use the pagination controls (in the left-hand corner). This is admittedly not as intuitive as it could be, but it is worth noting that, as far as I know, you're the only one who has had a problem with it.
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« Reply #53 on: November 01, 2006, 06:10:51 PM » |
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Bah, that's what it is... I must have changed threads instead of pages.
Another forum I frequent has the next page button where the next thread button is.
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« Reply #54 on: February 09, 2007, 11:05:20 AM » |
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I heard from a phorum member that e-mail (notifications of PMs and subscribed thread updates) is a bit wonky. Has anyone else encountered this problem?
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« Reply #55 on: February 14, 2007, 10:41:37 AM » |
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I just had an extremely difficult time logging in. First, I forgot my password...but I got a new one and then still couldn't log in. I kept getting redirected to pages with an error message: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /index.php on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. Apache/1.3.37 Server at www.thephorum.net Port 80 After going back to the main phorum page and starting the log-in/error message cycle several times, it finally logged me in.
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« Reply #56 on: February 14, 2007, 10:45:00 AM » |
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Just after posting that, it logged me off again. I decided to try a different web browser, and it let me log back in.
Here's the browser info from when I kept getting bounced: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.1) Gecko/20061204 Firefox/2.0.0.1
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« Reply #57 on: February 14, 2007, 11:09:16 AM » |
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I just had an extremely difficult time logging in. First, I forgot my password...but I got a new one and then still couldn't log in. I kept getting redirected to pages with an error message: [...] After going back to the main phorum page and starting the log-in/error message cycle several times, it finally logged me in.
This is a 'known issue' with the phorum. It is generally encountered when you type 'thephorum.net' instead of ' www.thephorum.net'. I am not sure why this is; I suspect that the server is configured somewhat awkwardly, but I'm not knowledgeable enough about apache vhosting to be able to say this for sure. If this happens again, try prepending the www. to the url (note that in the 403: Forbidden page, the www gets prepended, but by that time it has already failed). If the error still occurs in that case, please tell me again so I can look into it some more.
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« Reply #58 on: February 14, 2007, 02:06:23 PM » |
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Just logged in again on Firefox - www. was there and I was able to log in after just one try, but I still got the error message.
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« Reply #59 on: February 14, 2007, 03:01:41 PM » |
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It seems like the message comes up after the action is done each time I click a button. Each time I reply or change a setting, I get another one of those errors.
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« Reply #60 on: February 14, 2007, 03:48:28 PM » |
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Hm, that is very odd. It sounds like a race condition, but I don't know what sort of process contention could lead to that situation. I'll e-mail Chuck about it and see what's up. Thanks for reminding me of this (and providing enough impetus to get me to do something about it  ).
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« Reply #61 on: February 15, 2007, 04:34:16 PM » |
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Okay - I have officially seen it in action, there is a server move coming up, not sure if you guys got the memo, but things are moving around to fresh servers, fresh software, fresh security rules - should be patched up from that. Either way, I'll keep an eye on it. 
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« Reply #62 on: February 15, 2007, 05:12:00 PM » |
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Thanks, Chuck. Much appreciated.
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« Reply #63 on: February 19, 2007, 09:52:41 AM » |
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Okay - you guys are officially on a new server - so give it a few days, things are still leveling out, but if the error rears its head again, post a note, I'll check back here later this week.
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« Reply #64 on: February 19, 2007, 09:58:42 AM » |
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Thanks for the help with the server migration, Chuck! Unfortunately (and I know you said to give it a few days, but I'm the impatient type  ), I can still repro the error. It seems to happen the most reliably in Internet Explorer. Is it possible that something in the HTTP header that IE sends trips the content filter? Or maybe we just have something poorly-configured on our end?
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« Reply #65 on: February 19, 2007, 11:35:51 AM » |
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Well it seems to be related to the command line it creates when your not logged in and goto non-www URL, so it'd lead me to believe its cookie related, as it's having to re-make a cookie when the cookie should work for both forms of the domain both www and non-www - so maybe check your cookie settings and see whats going on there, I'll take a peek later if the day calms down some.
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« Reply #66 on: February 19, 2007, 08:41:12 PM » |
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Our cookie settings are: * Local storage of cookies is disabled * Subdomain-independent cookies are enabled In other words, the cookie for thephorum.net should be the same as the one for www.thephorum.net.
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« Reply #67 on: March 14, 2007, 11:48:41 PM » |
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Here's a though about how to control SPAM, and I'm not sure if we have access to the board code at this level, but would it be possible to do some sort of validation before letting an unregistered user post? Make them do a CAPTCHA (the thing where you have distorted letters in a box and you have to type them to prove you're not a bot) or something. Just a suggestion. It's a bummer that old threads are getting hijacked and having to be locked; you never know when someone might want to re-ignite actual discussion in one of those threads.
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« Reply #68 on: March 15, 2007, 07:16:45 PM » |
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Right; one problem that I've been having with the SMF devs is getting CAPTCHA support into replies as guest (current users probably don't realize this, but the reason the huge influx of bogus registrations has died is because SMF 1.1 implemented a CAPTCHA for user registration). They say that this is probably going to be included in the next feature release (i.e. 1.2.x), but it took them a bloody age to get 1.1 out the door, so I don't know when that will be.
It would be possible to either install a third-party mod to do this or to hack it up myself. The problem with the former is that a lot of these mods are fairly dodgy; I tried one already and it completely borked (thankfully the uninstall worked so it didn't munge the board up any). The problem is that these mods patch the php source, so I have to make a full backup before I install the mod in case it breaks something. The problem with the latter is that a lot of the php code behind SMF is really ugly, and I don't have the time to deal with it right now.
Spam is, unfortunately, one of the costs of doing business on the Internet. I'm up to my ears in work and travel (I'm in Bellevue, WA at the moment), so unless it reaches epidemic proportions then I'll just wait for the SMF devs to crank out a version whose spam prevention feature actually prevents spam.
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It's not an urgent problem, just something I know you'll want to solve eventually, so I thought I'd suggest something helpful, but of course you had already thought of that.
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« Reply #72 on: March 17, 2007, 02:32:49 PM » |
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In order to combat the spam, I have temporarily turned of posting privileges for guest users. Almost nobody seems to take advantage of that feature anyway, so hopefully it doesn't throw off anyone's groove. Once the next feature release of SMF is out, I will evaluate again what permissions we can give guests (I would like to re-enable the ability for guests to make new topics, which has been disabled for around a year now thanks to spammers).
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Hmm, that is pretty weird. I don't usually use the e-mail subscription feature, but I dug through my inbox and found one, and clicking the link seemed to work OK.
I'll be glad to look into this further; a couple bits of information I need: - Are you using Firefox or IE (or something else)? - Can you copy/paste one of those links here so I can test some stuff out? If I can't reproduce the problem here then I'm unlikely to be able to fix it. Also, since you mentioned you're at work, it may actually be a problem on your end (example: your DNS settings are configured to use your company's local gateway as a DNS resolver, and in the morning it's pounded by people browsing the web first thing, so it can't quite keep up and thus the DNS query times out...but then by the time you refresh, the server has had a chance to cache the DNS information, which is retained throughout the day as you occasionally check the Phorum, but then is dropped over the evening).
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I tried to approach the problem as scientifically as possible. I waited until 11am so that the time would be approximately around start-of-business California time (I realize that's probably not the time you're arriving, but it was when I was free). I started up a packet analyzer to capture HTTP traffic, and clicked the link you gave (obviously I copied the link last night, so this would be the first Phorum visit of the day, as in your situation).
Both the packet analyzer and the test itself seem to indicate that everything is fine. I also did a dig and traceroute from my computer (under Windows traceroute is tracert if you want to try it yourself, but Windows has no pre-installed dig command), and everything seemed fairly normal, though the route seemed kind of convoluted.
My theory is still that you're seeing some local caching effects. The fact that it only happens once, the first time you access is what makes me think this, and that it only happens on the phorum (more popular websites would already be in the cache so you wouldn't see this phenomenon). It's possible (probable?) that overly-aggressive timeouts on a cache or proxy could interact badly with a poorly-configured DNS or load-balancing system on the phorum end (something I have no control over) and cause this problem.
Short of capturing a trace on your end I'm not sure I can do anything else. If you know how to use Wireshark to capture packets and want to give that a go, I'll be glad to look at the resulting trace file if you send it to me. However, if you're not a gigantic networking nerd like me and don't care enough to go to that trouble, I fully understand.
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If you don’t have freedom as a principle, you can never see a reason not to make an exception. There are constantly going to be times when for one reason or another there’s some practical convenience in making an exception. rms
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« Reply #77 on: May 01, 2008, 01:25:36 PM » |
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I tried to approach the problem as scientifically as possible. I waited until 11am so that the time would be approximately around start-of-business California time (I realize that's probably not the time you're arriving, but it was when I was free). Sadly, this is actually about when my usual work day starts. Short of capturing a trace on your end I'm not sure I can do anything else. If you know how to use Wireshark to capture packets and want to give that a go, I'll be glad to look at the resulting trace file if you send it to me. However, if you're not a gigantic networking nerd like me and don't care enough to go to that trouble, I fully understand. It's probably not worth the trouble for what amounts to a minor annoyance that takes maybe a few seconds out of my day to realize it's spinning its wheels and getting nowhere, and to click "Refresh". I just thought it might be worth pointing out to see if you'd ever heard of such things happening before.
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« Last Edit: May 01, 2008, 03:49:16 PM by murlough23 »
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« Reply #78 on: May 01, 2008, 03:47:45 PM » |
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That happens to me sometimes too, though I don't use the email notification feature. Sometimes the phorum simply doesn't show up. I figured it wasn't worth worrying about.
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