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« on: April 07, 2005, 10:22:43 AM »

WOW.  This is a fantastic album.  I marginally enjoyed their debut (Destination: Beautiful) to the tune of about a B, but this is a pretty nice step forward for them.  The liner notes & packaging are obviously the first thing you notice, and they are only a sign of good things to come once you get beyond the looks.  Excellent musicianship and poetic lyrics.  Given the right promotion, I could see them doing as well as Switchfoot in the mainstream.  My favorite songs are "Someone Else's Arms," "Suspension," "Painless," "Cover Me," "Ready and Waiting To Fall," and "The Everglow."  The weakest point, to me, is "The Sun and the Moon."  It is a 7-minute closer that repeats itself for the last three minutes, so no points from me for being a long song that goes nowhere.  I think I'm going with an A- on this one.  

I know that TheWanderer and, I'm guessing, Wildcat have heard this.  What do ya'll think?  Anybody else have it?

I was surprised that CT didn't review this one.
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2005, 01:47:08 PM »

I haven't heard the Everglow past what they have on Purevolume, but I plan to get it.  I'm going to see them later tonight.
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2005, 02:01:44 PM »

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Niiiice!  Post your, uh, post-concert musings if you don't mind.

And welcome... Smiley  
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2005, 04:05:45 PM »

Actually I haven't heard it yet.  Cash is running kind of low and I can't really get excited about music right now.  (shocker, eh?)
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2005, 02:14:11 PM »

*weeps*  It's a shame how little attention this album is getting.  I'm actually moving this up to an A from A-.  It gets better and better each time I listen to it.  One person in particular who would like this is murlough.  I can practically guarantee it.
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2005, 02:15:52 PM »

Ah, this is the album I don't have that I want right now...I've hesitated on buying it yet because I have someone who is supposed to be sending it to me, but I haven't gotten it yet.  I've read nothing negative about it, and I liked the little bit of it I heard one day.
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2005, 12:13:54 PM »

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*weeps*  It's a shame how little attention this album is getting.  I'm actually moving this up to an A from A-.  It gets better and better each time I listen to it.  One person in particular who would like this is murlough.  I can practically guarantee it.
the lack of attention has to do with the lack of proper promotion...

Tooth and Nail has enirely dropped the ball this year on servicing albums...

i haven't gotten anything from them in over 6 months...


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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2005, 12:46:09 PM »

Yeah, you're right.  The odd thing, though, is that it actually debuted at #51 on the Billboard charts.  WTH??
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2005, 01:22:18 PM »

It's already the best album of 2005 for me.  
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2005, 06:10:06 PM »

#3 for me, behind Eisley and slightly behind Anberlin, but "The Everglow" is growing on me, so it could pass Anberlin's sophomore effort.
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2005, 06:13:30 PM »

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#3 for me, behind Eisley and slightly behind Anberlin, but "The Everglow" is growing on me, so it could pass Anberlin's sophomore effort.
Dude, I know you like Eisley, but Mae blows anything they do out of the water.  I feel they are superior musicians and lyricists.   I'll give Eisley a few years though.  They are young but right now I am not impressed.  They really need time to fill their own mold of sound and expression.
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2005, 07:02:22 PM »

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Dude, I know you like Eisley, but Mae blows anything they do out of the water.  I feel they are superior musicians and lyricists.   I'll give Eisley a few years though.  They are young but right now I am not impressed.  They really need time to fill their own mold of sound and expression.
I felt Mae had some very strong songs on "The Everglow," but I also didn't enjoy a few of the songs, such as "Painless." The album as a whole, however, is quite good.

Eisley had a full strong set except "Lost At Sea (Remix)" and "My Lovely", the former just being a remix and the latter has been growing on me a bit. "Brightly Wound" is one of my favorite songs ever, and the duets between Sherri and Stacy are absolutely lovely *drool*

I think Mae are superior musicians, though I actually enjoy the dreamy fantasy of Eisley, although Mae's lyrics are still quite good (I particularly enjoyed the two songs that directly mentioned the Everglow)
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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2005, 09:52:07 PM »

I just posted my review. The album gets a 4.5/5 rating.

http://www.epinions.com/content_178949885572
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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2005, 01:25:52 PM »

I'm actually listening to the CD right now for the first time.  (I just got it in the mail earlier today.)  So far, I really like what I hear, and I won't be surprised if it ends up as my #1 CD of the year so far.

I'll go into more detail after I hear the CD a few more times.  I have a feeling a lot of the songs are going to grow on me more with repeated listens.
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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2005, 06:37:46 PM »

Uhh... what's the difference between the limited edition and the normal one? I think I have the Limited one, but I'm not 100% sure...
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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2005, 06:53:20 PM »

Normal edition will not have the special sleeve cover with the artwork
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« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2005, 07:02:34 PM »

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Oh, you mean the one that says "THE EVERGLOW" and with that boy walking through a gate?

I'm pretty sure I have the limited edition now. Thanks.
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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2005, 08:05:07 AM »

Here's my crappy review.  I gave it 4/5.
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« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2005, 04:00:32 PM »

I've listened to this album several times now. It ain't bad. Ain't bad at all. But, the more I listen to it, the more I wonder... what's the big deal here?

The musicianship and songwriting are above average, but unremarkable. The lead singer has a nice voice, but there's nothing especially compelling about it; he does nothing to distinguish himself from the army of modern rock frontmen out there. And, really, the same thing can be said of the whole band; what is there that makes Mae distinctive from other similar acts? What makes their music stand out as unique? If I heard their songs being covered by another band, how would I be able to tell that they're Mae compositions?

Enlighten me, Mae fans, because, while it's far from an unenjoyable album, I find myself scratching my head over what all the fuss is about.
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« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2005, 04:04:03 PM »

Yeah, I was wondering the same, Josh.  I have basically the same take.
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« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2005, 04:14:48 PM »

Josh's reaction is basically the same reaction of most people when Jimmy Eat World released Clarity.  I don't blame you for feeling the way you do though.  Your opinion makes sense.  I will expound later.
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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2005, 08:04:03 AM »

On some tracks, Josh, I agree with you.

Others though . . . are just plain awesome.  As a whole it's really good . . . when dissected, it's okay.
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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2005, 01:34:36 PM »

Well, I could say what I think about it, but it has already been said by someone else.  I completely agree with the CT review.  The album is absolutely gorgeous when listenend to in one sitting.  The artwork is a major part of it, which you are missing Josh.  I feel this is truly one album where the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.
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« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2005, 10:50:44 AM »

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I've listened to this album several times now. It ain't bad. Ain't bad at all. But, the more I listen to it, the more I wonder... what's the big deal here?

The musicianship and songwriting are above average, but unremarkable. The lead singer has a nice voice, but there's nothing especially compelling about it; he does nothing to distinguish himself from the army of modern rock frontmen out there. And, really, the same thing can be said of the whole band; what is there that makes Mae distinctive from other similar acts? What makes their music stand out as unique? If I heard their songs being covered by another band, how would I be able to tell that they're Mae compositions?

Enlighten me, Mae fans, because, while it's far from an unenjoyable album, I find myself scratching my head over what all the fuss is about.
Josh I am totally with you on this. When I first got this album, I was blown away...now that wind has settled down and while it has it's moments, I'm already tired of it. Jimmy Eat World's Clarity means way more to me than this. I saw them live about 2-3 weeks after the album came out and I was bored stiff. They were the best band of the night, but other than that...meh.  
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« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2005, 11:02:08 AM »

I'm feeling the same way, Waltrane.  I still like it, and I listened to it earlier, but it isn't getting me like the first few spins.
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« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2005, 11:58:14 AM »

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I'm feeling the same way, Waltrane.  I still like it, and I listened to it earlier, but it isn't getting me like the first few spins.
That's just because you're a genius.  =D  
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« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2005, 12:19:25 PM »

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« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2005, 02:08:20 PM »

just got it today...

(finally broke down and bought the dang thing)...

anyway, it's definitely something to be happy with, but i wasn't as blown away as i was expecting to be...
a lot of good things going on...
i suppose it will take a little while to grow and then fade, but right now i guess i'm underwhelmed, but still impressed...

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« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2005, 03:13:51 PM »

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You like Living Sacrifice, Monty Python (you have to check out Spamalot btw - I saw it in Chicago in Jan. and I'm still laughing) and agree with me...sounds like genius to me.
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You like Living Sacrifice, Monty Python (you have to check out Spamalot btw - I saw it in Chicago in Jan. and I'm still laughing) and agree with me...sounds like genius to me.
I hope they make it into a DVD--even if it's just a bootleg.
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« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2005, 04:42:30 PM »

They probably will. I'd highly recommend getting to NY to see Spamalot. I was hunched over crying/laughing for 2 hrs straight. Tim Curry, David Hyde Pierce, Hank Azaria, and two of the other people (I can't remember their names, but they got nominated for Tonys) were all funny.  
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They probably will. I'd highly recommend getting to NY to see Spamalot. I was hunched over crying/laughing for 2 hrs straight. Tim Curry, David Hyde Pierce, Hank Azaria, and two of the other people (I can't remember their names, but they got nominated for Tonys) were all funny.
yeah, I read they almost swept the nominations.  

side note that has almost nothing to do with anything: people come up to my dad in the airport and mistake him for David Hyde Pierce.  Which is funny, since he's taller and has slightly more hair.
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« Reply #34 on: May 31, 2005, 03:43:27 PM »

This album is growing on me more and more as I listen to it. I just need a glimpse at the artwork. That may pull things together for me and bump it up from a B+ to an A- if I can see evidence that they've tied together multiple artistic mediums to make a statement. (It's also a smart way to make sure those who download will still have some interest in buying the album.)

I still want to know if I'm the only one who noticed the similarities between "The Ocean" and Rebecca St. James' "Go and Sin No More".

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« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2005, 10:13:50 AM »

The lead singers voice sounds kind of like the lead singer in Anberlin

Anywho, I really like this cd. The piano parts are really nice... I think I'm going to learn a few of these songs.

So far my favorites are Painless, Breakdown, Mistakes We Knew We Were Making, and Someone Elses Arms....

I think I bought the special edition or something cause it has like a slip cover and a really nice cd booklet...




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« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2005, 12:35:38 PM »

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This album is growing on me more and more as I listen to it. I just need a glimpse at the artwork. That may pull things together for me and bump it up from a B+ to an A- if I can see evidence that they've tied together multiple artistic mediums to make a statement. (It's also a smart way to make sure those who download will still have some interest in buying the album.)

I still want to know if I'm the only one who noticed the similarities between "The Ocean" and Rebecca St. James' "Go and Sin No More".

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Just to get a little discussion going, shouldn't a music review be based mostly on what a band does with the music, specifically, unimpeded by other considerations?  

I mean, we have DVD-Audio with video content if the artist so chooses, bonus DVDs of live performances, albums in 5.1 surround, etc.  I can't help but wonder if all of this will really serve as a gimmick to distract a critic off of the straight and narrow, so to speak.  The focus, IMO, should remain the quality of the music itself, as some of these other things are just a by-product of improved technology that doesn't necessarily make the final product any more effective.  Other things (like a storybook approach) seem to me to be a bit gimmicky.
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« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2005, 12:53:41 PM »

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Just to get a little discussion going, shouldn't a music review be based mostly on what a band does with the music, specifically, unimpeded by other considerations?

Primarily, yes. There may be other small considerations... things that I think add a little value to the purchase of the CD. But none of that's going to matter to me if the music is crap. If the music is good, having some good extras may bump up my grade a little. But not too significantly.

Mae is a bit of a special case because the intro to the CD specifically indicates that the songs are somehow tied into the visual art in the CD booklet. This, in turn, may help me to better understand the context of the songs, and thus appreciate the songs more than I already do. Or it may just turn out to be a gimmick. Either way, I'm going to need to see it for myself before writing a review of this one.
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« Reply #38 on: June 01, 2005, 12:54:14 PM »

I'm with you there, bloop.  The storybook intro and outro come off not only as cheesy but also contrived and gimmicky.  Go for a concept album, sure, but don't really on pretty pictures to boost one's ratings.
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« Reply #39 on: June 01, 2005, 12:59:26 PM »

It certainly isn't subtle. I mean, there are many albums that I've appreciated more upon listening to them while looking at the artwork-- Kid A comes to mind-- but do they really need to TELL you that their artwork is important? Couldn't they just let it speak for itself?
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