'HOUSE'....Medical drama on Tuesday night

[PaulDA]

I've gotten kind of addicted to 'House', which comes on after American Idol on Tuesday.
Although the plot seems basically the same week after week:
(Patient dying from mysterious illness, doctors brainstorm to find the answer, evil administrator gets in the way, Dr. House is sarcastic and crabby), it is really very well acted for what it is.
I have a question: I missed it a couple of times. I noticed tonight that the guy who was usually the mean administrator (large black guy) wasn't in it tonight, and a bald white guy was giving House a bit of a problem. Is that other boss still in it?

[Brenden]

The big black guy left and took his money with him. The bald guy was just some lawyer.

This is one of the only shows I watch, so yes, I am a fan, mainly for House's character.

[PaulDA]

The big black guy left and took his money with him.

What do you mean?
Was it written like that in the show that the administrator stole the hospital's money?
Or did the actor just decide to leave?
Or did the producers decide to get rid of the character?
Personally, his character was too contrived and unrealistic.

[enemy anemone]

no American Idolatry or medical shows for me. my Tuesday night show is Gilmore Girls.  

[Vlad!]

If I turn the antenna one way we get Fox pretty well, and if I turn it another we can get NBC (or was it CBS? I don't recall) almost perfect. ABC comes out of Danville or some other local variant on Timbuctu and apparently the signal peters out before reaching us (no Monday Night Football ). Not like it really matters; I have watched TV about twice this year, and once was the superbowl.

[dgp11776]

I actually watched it for the first time last Tuesday, and I really liked it.

[PaulDA]

So.....can anyone answer my questions about the black administrator?

[Wildcatblue7]

We taped it last night, but I don't know about the black dude.

I like it--although it can be a touch formulaic at times.  And of course you have to suspend all disbelief with some of those crazy diagnosises.  haha.

I really like the House character though.  I can't remember the actor's name, but I think it's funny he pulled off playing Bertie Wooster so well and then plays House.  Awesome.

[PaulDA]

We taped it last night, but I don't know about the black dude.
 

Do you think he's going to date that nurse (or doctor, whatever she is) again after he told he she is just using him as her next 'pity case'?

[Wildcatblue7]

We taped it last night, but I don't know about the black dude.
 

Do you think he's going to date that nurse (or doctor, whatever she is) again after he told he she is just using him as her next 'pity case'?

huh?  I must have missed that.  I haven't watched the one from last night yet.

[amalgamate]

What do you mean?
Was it written like that in the show that the administrator stole the hospital's money?
Or did the actor just decide to leave?
Or did the producers decide to get rid of the character?
Personally, his character was too contrived and unrealistic.

paul, to answer your question...

Vogler (the black administrator dude) tried to have house fired by having his tenure removed. He took this vote to the board and House's buddy doctor(wilson)  was the only one to vote against it. (even cutty did initially...100 million IS a lot of money). So after wilson stood up for him, vogler asked that he leave the board meeting room and said that they were going to take a vote on his tenure. So, the board then voted to remove wilsons' tenure (vogler said that if they didn't...he would leave and take his 100 mil with him) and he was then fired. Since they couldn't vote again on removing houses' tenure again, they would have to wait until tomorrow.

At the next board meeting, they took another vote and this time cutty refused to vote yes on removing the tenure for house. Vogler and cutty got into a heated argument that eventually left many on the board agreeing with cutty and vogler decided to leave the hospital.

That's about it, sorry if it was confusing! i'm glad they got rid of this guy...had they made him more believable it wouldn't have been so bad but eh.

 

[PaulDA]

What do you mean?
Was it written like that in the show that the administrator stole the hospital's money?
Or did the actor just decide to leave?
Or did the producers decide to get rid of the character?
Personally, his character was too contrived and unrealistic.

paul, to answer your question...

Vogler (the black administrator dude) tried to have house fired by having his tenure removed. He took this vote to the board and House's buddy doctor(wilson)  was the only one to vote against it. (even cutty did initially...100 million IS a lot of money). So after wilson stood up for him, vogler asked that he leave the board meeting room and said that they were going to take a vote on his tenure. So, the board then voted to remove wilsons' tenure (vogler said that if they didn't...he would leave and take his 100 mil with him) and he was then fired. Since they couldn't vote again on removing houses' tenure again, they would have to wait until tomorrow.

At the next board meeting, they took another vote and this time cutty refused to vote yes on removing the tenure for house. Vogler and cutty got into a heated argument that eventually left many on the board agreeing with cutty and vogler decided to leave the hospital.

That's about it, sorry if it was confusing! i'm glad they got rid of this guy...had they made him more believable it wouldn't have been so bad but eh.

Thanks, that explains most of it, but where did the $100 million come from?
And do you think the producers got rid of the character because he was so unrealistic or do you think this was all planned from the beginning and the actor knew he was only going to be a few episodes?

[Brenden]

It was probably a planned story arc, too much more and I would have stopped watching.

[amalgamate]

What do you mean?
Was it written like that in the show that the administrator stole the hospital's money?
Or did the actor just decide to leave?
Or did the producers decide to get rid of the character?
Personally, his character was too contrived and unrealistic.

paul, to answer your question...

Vogler (the black administrator dude) tried to have house fired by having his tenure removed. He took this vote to the board and House's buddy doctor(wilson)  was the only one to vote against it. (even cutty did initially...100 million IS a lot of money). So after wilson stood up for him, vogler asked that he leave the board meeting room and said that they were going to take a vote on his tenure. So, the board then voted to remove wilsons' tenure (vogler said that if they didn't...he would leave and take his 100 mil with him) and he was then fired. Since they couldn't vote again on removing houses' tenure again, they would have to wait until tomorrow.

At the next board meeting, they took another vote and this time cutty refused to vote yes on removing the tenure for house. Vogler and cutty got into a heated argument that eventually left many on the board agreeing with cutty and vogler decided to leave the hospital.

That's about it, sorry if it was confusing! i'm glad they got rid of this guy...had they made him more believable it wouldn't have been so bad but eh.

Thanks, that explains most of it, but where did the $100 million come from?
And do you think the producers got rid of the character because he was so unrealistic or do you think this was all planned from the beginning and the actor knew he was only going to be a few episodes?

oh, well, vogler was a business man prior to being the board head at the hospital. He told the hospital that he would donate 100 million dollars to the hospital if he could become head of the board at the hospital. (blah, i can't remember the term right now). Anyway, the hospital agreed and let vogler come on, but when he left, he took his money with him.

I think this was a planned storyline to give the scriptwriters time to decide what they were going to do with this series. To be honest, i'm not sure they planned on having the success that they have and probably didn't have as many ideas ready to go into production. Adding this guy livened things up a bit but once the scripwriters decided what else they could do with the cast (besides the same thing every episode) they wrote him off, and are now developing the side story with house and cameron, among other things.  

[beautifulmess]

I've just started watching this myself recently. I've only seen a handful of episodes and was wondering if it was explained early on why House uses a cane and walks with a limp.  

[amalgamate]

yeah, i didn't see the very first episodes of this series either. They've alluded to some sort of surgery i think that he had on one of his legs but that's about all i can remember. I'll see what i can dig up on this.  

[amalgamate]

after looking this up, it seems like they've never explained it in full. All i could find out was that he may  now have (or previously had) a blood clot in his leg which causes him serious pain. I don't know, i didn't find that info. from a reputable news source haha, so it may or may not be correct. But apparently his right leg is the one that's injured and he walks with the cane in his right hand.

[beautifulmess]

after looking this up, it seems like they've never explained it in full. All i could find out was that he may  now have (or previously had) a blood clot in his leg which causes him serious pain. I don't know, i didn't find that info. from a reputable news source haha, so it may or may not be correct. But apparently his right leg is the one that's injured and he walks with the cane in his right hand.

Thanks for the info.  

[Brenden]

I heard it was some rare condition that they didn't catch early enough.

[Wildcatblue7]

I thought it was a stroke . . .

[Brenden]

In one episode Cameron mentioned a condition, and then said it was the same thing House had. It was not a simple stroke, it was some obscure condition I'd never heard of before.

[PaulDA]

Someone mentioned to Luther Vandross the doctor in the show reminded him of Sir Arther Coman Doyle's great detective......but Luther looked at him staright in the eye and sang:
"But a HOOOUUUSE is nooootttt a HOOOOLLLLLMES....."

[amalgamate]

anyone watch on tuesday? i thought it was a great episode and a nice break from the sometimes forumulaic norm. They actually described why House has a limp and all that (which is funny...since we had just been talking about it).

What did you guys think?

[PaulDA]

anyone watch on tuesday? i thought it was a great episode and a nice break from the sometimes forumulaic norm. They actually described why House has a limp and all that (which is funny...since we had just been talking about it).

What did you guys think?

I was watching it then got distracted. What exactly gave him the limp?
Was it because he waited too long to be operated on and kept his leg or does he wear a prosthetic?

[amalgamate]

i guess he was misdiagnosed initially, the doctors didn't know what was causing his leg pain. Eventually they determined that he was suffering from muscle death because of a clot (i think). But by then it had taken an extra 3-4 days to diagnose and his leg had gotten progressively worse. The doctor (cutty...actually) suggested that the best way for him to be free of pain and survive was for him to have his leg amputated. House refused this option and said he would rather they remove the clot or whatever was causing the muscle death and preserve whatever muscle they could so he could hopefully make a full recovery.

There was some other nuances in the story with his girlfriend at the time that were somewhat confusing, but the bottom line...they didn't amputate his leg and because they misdiagnosed him initially he now lacks muscle in his leg and is in constant pain (the reason for his addiction to painkillers). But the way the story was put together with the other storylines was really what made this episode really cool and unique.  

[Brenden]

Yeah, it was good episode, not what the previews suggested it would be, but a nice change of pace.

One of my favorite parts,

"Why doesn't she (Carmen Electra) have any pants on?"

*House stares*

[PaulDA]

i guess he was misdiagnosed initially, the doctors didn't know what was causing his leg pain. Eventually they determined that he was suffering from muscle death because of a clot (i think). But by then it had taken an extra 3-4 days to diagnose and his leg had gotten progressively worse. The doctor (cutty...actually) suggested that the best way for him to be free of pain and survive was for him to have his leg amputated. House refused this option and said he would rather they remove the clot or whatever was causing the muscle death and preserve whatever muscle they could so he could hopefully make a full recovery.

There was some other nuances in the story with his girlfriend at the time that were somewhat confusing, but the bottom line...they didn't amputate his leg and because they misdiagnosed him initially he now lacks muscle in his leg and is in constant pain (the reason for his addiction to painkillers). But the way the story was put together with the other storylines was really what made this episode really cool and unique.

Yes, when came back and forth and saw him in bed, I was confused!
I thought the girl friend was going to sign the paper as proxy as soon as he was put out. What happened with that?

[Brenden]

i guess he was misdiagnosed initially, the doctors didn't know what was causing his leg pain. Eventually they determined that he was suffering from muscle death because of a clot (i think). But by then it had taken an extra 3-4 days to diagnose and his leg had gotten progressively worse. The doctor (cutty...actually) suggested that the best way for him to be free of pain and survive was for him to have his leg amputated. House refused this option and said he would rather they remove the clot or whatever was causing the muscle death and preserve whatever muscle they could so he could hopefully make a full recovery.

There was some other nuances in the story with his girlfriend at the time that were somewhat confusing, but the bottom line...they didn't amputate his leg and because they misdiagnosed him initially he now lacks muscle in his leg and is in constant pain (the reason for his addiction to painkillers). But the way the story was put together with the other storylines was really what made this episode really cool and unique.

Yes, when came back and forth and saw him in bed, I was confused!
I thought the girl friend was going to sign the paper as proxy as soon as he was put out. What happened with that?

She did, but she took the middle ground instead of removing the leg.

[PaulDA]

She did, but she took the middle ground instead of removing the leg.

"Gulp" She had them remove something 'in the MIDDLE??"  
.....No wonder the guy is as grumpy as he is all the time!!!  

[amalgamate]

"Gulp" She had them remove something 'in the MIDDLE??"  
.....No wonder the guy is as grumpy as he is all the time!!!

haha, i'm not sure that's what they were referring to

but i'm still seriously confused as to what the middle ground was. House wanted them to operate but not remove the leg and cutty said they should amputate...apparently there was something in between that house did not want, that she ended up signing for anyway as her proxy. (that witch!)

i don't know  

[PaulDA]