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« on: June 13, 2005, 05:39:20 PM » |
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Can't believe it. Oh well, money is power in California. Sad sad day for the American legal system
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2005, 05:45:33 PM » |
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Women get away with everything these days, why should he be any exception?  |
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2005, 05:57:14 PM » |
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I wasn't on that jury, but I can't imagine them knowing something I don't that would cast the reasonable doubt necessary to acquit him. It reminds me of the last time a rich black guy got off in a criminal case where guilt was apparent, except for the black part of course.
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2005, 06:07:01 PM » |
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The difference to me this time is that OJ's prosecution had a pretty solid case, imho, and Jackson's case was a lot sketchier. I think he's guilty, but w/ the witnesses that they brought in to testify against him I'm not too greatly surprised that he ended up sliding by on reasonable doubt.
OJ literally got away with murder. Jackson got off more becuase the DA didn't quite do his job well enough.
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2005, 06:07:46 PM » |
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Hey, I'll trade you my "The Jury was Right About OJ" tee shirt for your "Jacko is Innocent" shirt!
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2005, 06:16:09 PM » |
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OJ literally got away with murder. Jackson got off more becuase the DA didn't quite do his job well enough. This reminds me of a sketch from Chapelle's Show where Dave is being interviewed for jury duty. "The state has to prove to ME beyond a reasonable doubt. How come they haven't found Biggie and Tupac's killers? A white woman dies and they arrested OJ. Nicole Simpson can't rap!" LOL..anyways...... |
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2005, 07:56:01 PM » |
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:sigh: bleah. I feel sorry for him. and the kids. and the american public for putting up with this for about forever.
any bets on how long it'll take before he's involved in another legal battle?
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-ruth ann
it's like God himself is coming home to say:
"I, I can do anything, if you want me here.
and I can fix anything, if you'll let me near.
where are those secrets now (that you're just scared to tell)?
I'll whisper them all aloud so you can hear yourself."
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2005, 09:39:06 PM » |
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:sigh: bleah. I feel sorry for him. and the kids. and the american public for putting up with this for about forever.
any bets on how long it'll take before he's involved in another legal battle? I'm sure we'll hear more from Jacko as soon as he invites another little boy into the sacko. |
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2005, 07:02:11 AM » |
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They should at least put him away for disturbing the peace...he is certainly disturbing, and I feel less peaceful with his mug plastered on the news.
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2005, 07:03:25 AM » |
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:sigh: bleah. I feel sorry for him. and the kids. and the american public for putting up with this for about forever.
any bets on how long it'll take before he's involved in another legal battle? I'm sure we'll hear more from Jacko as soon as he invites another little boy into the sacko.  He'll probably get sued in civil court. |
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ALLALOM
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2005, 08:48:20 AM » |
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So...I guess I am the only one who thinks he is innocent on this board?
I mean, sure he is completely nuts, but his sanity was not on trial here - if it had been then they would have locked him up for good.
If you looked at the accuser's family it should be little surprise why there was 'reasonable doubt' - that family is KNOWN for fraud and lies, and they even got caught in it on stand.
Am I saying Jackson never touched little boys? no.
But I am saying that this was was such a shambles to begin with - that for once the legal system actually worked and threw out a case that had too many holes.
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2005, 04:43:36 PM » |
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So...I guess I am the only one who thinks he is innocent on this board?
I mean, sure he is completely nuts, but his sanity was not on trial here - if it had been then they would have locked him up for good.
If you looked at the accuser's family it should be little surprise why there was 'reasonable doubt' - that family is KNOWN for fraud and lies, and they even got caught in it on stand.
Am I saying Jackson never touched little boys? no.
But I am saying that this was was such a shambles to begin with - that for once the legal system actually worked and threw out a case that had too many holes. yes, i certainly agree with you on these points... I don't however feel bad for jackson (not that you do) because these cases are caused by his misbehavior (however non-sexual it may be) with children. I was listening to a guy on the radio yesterday (sports talk..go figure) who said he felt really bad for michael jackson and felt that our justice system failed because they allowed this family to bring these charges against him and basically suck him of his money, drag his name through the mud, and cause a lot of stress. But yeah, i don't feel bad...because he's just asking for it. I don't care how much you love kids, you just can't sleep with them, being a grown man, unless they're your own children. If he'd behave responsibly, chances are these things wouldn't happen...but he is a little looney, so, eh. |
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2005, 07:26:20 AM » |
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If you don’t have freedom as a principle, you can never see a reason not to make an exception. There are constantly going to be times when for one reason or another there’s some practical convenience in making an exception.
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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2005, 08:33:45 AM » |
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Calling Michael names and calling the jury 'douche bags' is really low.
Yes he is weird, but is a reason to put someone down?
He may very well be quilty of this or other accusations in the past, but the fact is the prosecution had a very weak case with horrible witnesses, the worst being that boys' mother. She was completely not credible.
The prosecution did not prove their case. It had nothing to do with him being famous. The jurors discussed that at the beginning and made an effort to disregard his celebrity. I believe what the foreman said regarding this.
If people want to like he was lying, that is their business.
I have no reason to think that.
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2005, 09:07:15 AM » |
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Eh, I think he's innocent too... Hopefully MJ's learned his lesson though...
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« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2005, 10:05:38 AM » |
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Did anyone else watch the coverage of the acquittal on Fox News?
As they showed Jackson driving away from his courthouse, back to Neverland, Fox anchor Shepard Smith began chanting, "You're a FREAK! EVERYONE knows you're guilty! You're a FREAK!" And I just had to think... dude... where's the journalistic integrity? And more importantly, where's the basic human kindness? Where's the sense of decency?
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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2005, 10:07:16 AM » |
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Did anyone else watch the coverage of the acquittal on Fox News?
As they showed Jackson driving away from his courthouse, back to Neverland, Fox anchor Shepard Smith began chanting, "You're a FREAK! EVERYONE knows you're guilty! You're a FREAK!" And I just had to think... dude... where's the journalistic integrity? And more importantly, where's the basic human kindness? Where's the sense of decency? Really? Well, that seems pretty idiotic. Shouldn't that be like a fine or something? |
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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2005, 10:08:13 AM » |
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Did anyone else watch the coverage of the acquittal on Fox News?
As they showed Jackson driving away from his courthouse, back to Neverland, Fox anchor Shepard Smith began chanting, "You're a FREAK! EVERYONE knows you're guilty! You're a FREAK!" And I just had to think... dude... where's the journalistic integrity? And more importantly, where's the basic human kindness? Where's the sense of decency? Are you serious? |
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« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2005, 10:21:40 AM » |
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They should at least put him away for disturbing the peace...he is certainly disturbing, and I feel less peaceful with his mug plastered on the news. my feeling exactly. I haven't been following the case...I don't know if he's innocent or not; my inclination is to think he's not, but that's more of an unfair personal bias than an informed opinion so I guess I shouldn't even mention it. either way, I'm so sick of hearing about him everywhere. |
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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2005, 10:53:36 AM » |
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Did anyone else watch the coverage of the acquittal on Fox News? thats fox for you. they dont understand the meaning of journalism, or integrity, just schlock. |
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« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2005, 10:56:24 AM » |
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Did anyone else watch the coverage of the acquittal on Fox News?
As they showed Jackson driving away from his courthouse, back to Neverland, Fox anchor Shepard Smith began chanting, "You're a FREAK! EVERYONE knows you're guilty! You're a FREAK!" And I just had to think... dude... where's the journalistic integrity? And more importantly, where's the basic human kindness? Where's the sense of decency? That's pretty sad. OK, so I think he's a freak too, but people don't expect me to be unbiased and objective (not like I expect any of the news media to be either unbiased or objective). |
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If you don’t have freedom as a principle, you can never see a reason not to make an exception. There are constantly going to be times when for one reason or another there’s some practical convenience in making an exception.
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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2005, 05:29:59 PM » |
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Did anyone else watch the coverage of the acquittal on Fox News?
As they showed Jackson driving away from his courthouse, back to Neverland, Fox anchor Shepard Smith began chanting, "You're a FREAK! EVERYONE knows you're guilty! You're a FREAK!" And I just had to think... dude... where's the journalistic integrity? And more importantly, where's the basic human kindness? Where's the sense of decency? That's pretty sad. OK, so I think he's a freak too, but people don't expect me to be unbiased and objective (not like I expect any of the news media to be either unbiased or objective). wait, i thought josh was kidding he was...wasn't he?  |
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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2005, 06:02:11 PM » |
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my feeling exactly.
I haven't been following the case...I don't know if he's innocent or not; my inclination is to think he's not, but that's more of an unfair personal bias than an informed opinion so I guess I shouldn't even mention it. either way, I'm so sick of hearing about him everywhere. That's pretty much where I am. Only I seem to be the emperess of expressing my polarized (in comparison to others) opinions at the worst possible moments. I really don't want to count how many people have chastised me for thinking MJ is guilty.  |
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