David Crowder Band

[ajyouthguy]

Crowder has a new album called A Collision out next week...just wondered if anyone has it or has heard it and what you think?

[Brenden]

I'm looking forward to hearing the album, might not buy it though.

Whoever buys it has to upload the Sufjan cover to the Pub.

[murlough23]

Whoever buys it has to upload the Sufjan cover to the Pub.

Yeah, assuming that (a) I can get into the Pub, and (b) the disc isn't copy-protected.

[Tom]

Crowder has a new album called A Collision out next week...just wondered if anyone has it or has heard it and what you think?

haven't heard it. i'm cautiously optimistic about this one. DCB's last album was very classy and articulate; it will be a huge challenge to improve upon it.

with their high quality of musicianship and the lack of dumbed down lyrics, they pretty much blew away everything else hiding under the banner of P&W. it would be great if they could do that again because 98% of what passes for P&W music needs a major shot in the arm.

but covering Sufjan earns them major props from me; songs unheard.

[Aaron]

Yeah, assuming that (a) I can get into the Pub, and (b) the disc isn't copy-protected.

I have a feeling it might be copy-protected.  I remember Illuminate having that little thing in the cd case about not burning cds cause it took away from the artists,etc.. blah blah blah.

[murlough23]

I have a feeling it might be copy-protected.  I remember Illuminate having that little thing in the cd case about not burning cds cause it took away from the artists,etc.. blah blah blah.

In the same sense that Switchfoot is? Everybody had those warnings starting a few years ago. I'm not just talking about that. I'm talking about the active istallation of sofwtare onto the disc that renders it unplayable on a computer except through the disc's own software. I wasn't aware that the smaller (relatively speaking), Christian-run labels like EMI CMG were doing that.

In any event, if they have done that, I might be able to get around it using Tim Foreman's advice on how to convert from the CD to WAV files.

[Brenden]

Yeah, assuming that (a) I can get into the Pub, and (b) the disc isn't copy-protected.

If that fails, I know a guy who might buy the cd and knows how to get around copy-protection.

[bebop]

full clips here

www.independentbands.com.

I like it ALOT from what I can hear.

[bdg13disciple]

In the same sense that Switchfoot is? Everybody had those warnings starting a few years ago. I'm not just talking about that. I'm talking about the active istallation of sofwtare onto the disc that renders it unplayable on a computer except through the disc's own software. I wasn't aware that the smaller (relatively speaking), Christian-run labels like EMI CMG were doing that.
 

it's not an emi cmg thing... yet...
Switchfoot was protected because of Sony/Columbia...
i wouldn't expect DCB to be weighed down by it...

peace... love... bdg...

[jocfreak]

You can listen to the whole Sufjan cover at their Myspace

[murlough23]

Christianity Today gives this one 5 Stars.

Normally, that would mean very little to me (like most Christian review sites, they have a habit of over-rating big-name worship artists and or bands that have broken into the mainstream like Switchfoot), but since it's coming from someone who didn't dole out points easily to Illuminate, I'm willing to accept that this is probably going to be a rather amazing record. Looks like the DCB really pulled out all the stops this time around... and the CCM industry really could use more creative worship albums.

Tomorrow can't come soon enough!

[worldofcm]

Christianity Today gives this one 5 Stars.

Normally, that would mean very little to me (like most Christian review sites, they have a habit of over-rating big-name worship artists and or bands that have broken into the mainstream like Switchfoot), but since it's coming from someone who didn't dole out points easily to Illuminate, I'm willing to accept that this is probably going to be a rather amazing record. Looks like the DCB really pulled out all the stops this time around... and the CCM industry really could use more creative worship albums.

Tomorrow can't come soon enough!

I think CT took a few steps back when they rated Switchfoot's latest 5 stars, and as much as I love this new DCB album, I'm not so sure it deserves 5 stars.

[murlough23]

I think CT took a few steps back when they rated Switchfoot's latest 5 stars, and as much as I love this new DCB album, I'm not so sure it deserves 5 stars.

The way I figure it, Illuminate was a solid 4-star album, and from everything I'm hearing, A Collision sounds like a major creative step forward, so unless the songs are just hideous to listen to or have really stoopid lyrics (which doesn't seem to be the case from the clips I've heard), it shouldn't be too difficult to surpass Illuminate and get a 4.5. 5 might be a bit of a stretch, but I think it's attainable.

NP: "Courage", Superchic[k]

[starhawk]

I kind of like the tracks I've heard. I'm a little skeptical of the term creative worship for various reasons, but if it's good, than it's good.

[murlough23]

I kind of like the tracks I've heard. I'm a little skeptical of the term creative worship for various reasons, but if it's good, than it's good.

Well, I would deem any creative Christian music to be creative worship, really, because if it's made with the intention of honoring God, that's worship. I don't think it's possible for true worship to be uncreative, actually. Unfortunately, a lot of the "worship music" we hear is uncerative, and is less about worshipping God and more about making us feel warm fuzzies as we sing catchy songs over and over.

Having said that, in terms of the traditional mold of "contemporary worship", a lot of these new DCB songs don't fit the mold. They're more personal songs of experience with God, of hoping for God's return, of wondering where God is, of encouraging another person about God's eventual return, etc. As such, I don't see congregations adopting most of them any time soon. Not all of them are meant to be congregational songs; others obviously are. And I think they're plenty of room for creativity in either format.

As for what I think of this album, whether it accomplished its creative goals... well, that'll have to wait a week.

[murlough23]

OK... finally got a review up after all this time.

http://www.epinions.com/content_203551510148

[ajyouthguy]

hmm, i disagree with a ton of your criticism in that review, mostly on the front end of the album, b/c i think the first few songs are a whole lot better than you gave them credit for.  in fact, i think tracks 2-6 or 7 are all really awesome songs, honestly.

and live, wow, this band, and this new stuff, are incredible.

but i do agree that we could do without a lot of the interludes and the last 2 tracks altogether.

[murlough23]

hmm, i disagree with a ton of your criticism in that review, mostly on the front end of the album, b/c i think the first few songs are a whole lot better than you gave them credit for.  in fact, i think tracks 2-6 or 7 are all really awesome songs, honestly.

Well, I don't hate any of those songs. I just kind of think they're too "standard DCB", and someone hearing the band for the first time after hearing that this was a very creative album would probably be turned off by those songs.

I have no problems with track 7. I rather like that one. I was just noting that it took some time to get into it.

and live, wow, this band, and this new stuff, are incredible.

Judging from what I saw on the Illuminate tour, I can only imagine. Unfortunately I missed their one stop in L.A. and it doesn't look like they'll be back any time soon.

[plvarona]

I do agree that tracks 2-5 sound like "standard DCB."  However, I think their placement on the album also made sense in that I could see where the band may have wanted to "warm the listeners up" by starting with some familiar-sounding material, before going on to the more experimental stuff.  So if I have that context in mind, I can actually enjoy those songs much more than if I was just listening to them out of the blue.