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Author Topic: Kirk Cameron/Ray Comfort-'The Way Of The Master'  (Read 439 times)
PaulDA
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« on: October 09, 2005, 12:51:27 PM »

*edit* It's actually 'the Way Of The Master....not 'Warrior'. Wink
I was flipping through the channels last night and saw Kirk talking on TBN so I stopped to watch. He was joined by Ray Comfort and they were musing about how can it be that there are more Christians getting divorced statistically than non-Christians? If we truly are changed people we get regenerated how come it is hard to tell the Christians from the non-Christians they were saying.
Then they quoted two Pastors, one of them was Dr. Kennedy. Both pastors basically said that there are millions of people who go to church but aren't saved.
Then Kirk and Ray showed scriptures in the Bible that shows Jesus saying 'narrow is the road and few find it", when Jesus said that wide is the road to destruction, and they also showed where Jesus is going to tell many people who claim to know Him to "get away from Me, you never new Me' on the Day of judgement when they will say "Lord, we did miracles in your name".
Then Kirk and Ray said something to the effect: "If it is true that there are millions professing Christians who have never been truly saved this would explain why more 'Christians' get divorced than non-Christians and it would explain why many 'Christians' act like the world.
..... The more I listened to them the more I agree with them! Jesus did say you can tell a tree by it's fruit, and while we can't judge anyone's heart, we can have a pretty good idea if people are saved by how they have changed and how they serve Jesus. From their web site it seems there main ministry is trying to help people realize if they are truly saved or not. On the TV show they showed Ray interviewing a few people who claimed they were saved, but one guy in NYC (I think) was saying he still has sex with women, still gets drunk, etc, because Jesus died for his sins and Jesus paid the price.
After the clips, Kirk looked into the camera and said (paraphrased): "People just don't' seem to understand what Jesus' righteous justice it. He is holy and just and you must pay the penalty for sin. You must repent and give yourself to Jesus and truly try to turn the other way, because that is what repent means. Jesus did die for our sins, but it only counts when we repent and truly give ourselves to Jesus. Many people go to church and have a form of righteousness but they never gave their lives to Jesus, and you can see by the fruits all around us by Christians living the same way and doing the same sins over and over as non-Christians."
.....What do all of you think of this? I am impressed by Kirk and Ray.
They are unpretentious and speak with no double-talk.
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PaulDA
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2005, 01:04:30 PM »

Here is their web site:
http://www.wayofthemaster.com/wotm_flash.html
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2005, 07:56:34 PM »

I saw both of them speak at a conference a year or so ago . . . I remember being really impressed by both of them, especially Ray Comfort.  Good guys.  I would be more effusive, but it was a year ago and I can't remember what they spoke about.  ph34r  
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2005, 09:57:02 PM »

wow...seems like i read this word for word someplace else...
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2005, 10:10:09 PM »

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wow...seems like i read this word for word someplace else...
...complete with double-post.
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2005, 01:46:07 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2005, 10:25:01 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2005, 03:10:45 PM »

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I thought you were "done with CMC" Paul?
 
I've been back for a while now.
I decided that I left for silly reasons and I enjoy posting there, I like the high traffic of posts, and besides, with the new RSJ CD coming out, it would be impossible for me to resist!
Good or bad, the new RSJ album thread there has over 11,500 views and over 850 replies and the record isn't even out for 43 more days!
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