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« on: February 16, 2006, 04:52:05 PM »

Apparently the RIAA are trying to claim that ripping songs from CDs you have bought is not fair use.

I actually like it when the RIAA does something like this. If they just settled for being a minor annoyance and occasionally prosecuting a handful of people, nothing much would happen. But if they start to really get uppity about this sort of thing, more and more people will start to take notice and maybe do something about it. History has shown that people are really willing to bend pretty far rather than inconvenience themselves by taking action; it's only when those in power start to push their luck that these same people snap back and do something drastic.  
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2006, 08:53:07 AM »

it is so great living in such an enlightened world! i wondered how long it would take for corporations to criminalize everything that doesn't make them more money. it is good to see that the forward thinking people at the RIAA are eliminating fair use once and for all. it was such an antiquated idea...allowing people to BUY things and then allow them to fully utilize their purchases by preserving them in other mediums to protect their initial investment in PROPERTY. how quaint indeed to let people own things at all. Huzzah! Huzzah! to the wunderkinds at work within the RIAA. Huzzah!
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2006, 02:38:13 PM »

This is exactly why I no longer care what's legal and what's not. A non-enforceable law (which this pretty much is) is more of a scare tactic than an actual law, in my mind. Show me how it's actually hurting me or someone else, and I'll feel some sense of moral obligation. But the RIAA is basically just throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2006, 10:41:18 AM »

Record companies and distributors are trying to treat music like software: licensing it rather than selling it. However, to paraphrase from Star Wars, the more the RIAA tightens their grip, the more sales will slip through their fingers. Why don't these people realize that they would probably make more money (and almost certainly not make less) if they got together with the EFF, major electronic distributors such as Apple and Napster, and major record labels to actually figure out a) what users want to do with their music and b) how to make money off of this without forcing the users into an unnatural mold. I think they are so caught up in the idea of consumers as pirates who are looking for ways to break the system that they end up fighting the people they are marketing to rather than working with them.
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2006, 03:03:34 PM »

Another article about the RIAA.
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2006, 06:33:26 PM »

I've always held the belief that the RIAA's main goal is to eventually have jukeboxes in everyone's homes.  You want to hear a song?  Drop a quarter.  Every monday, hired goons go house to house collecting quarters.
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2006, 06:54:42 PM »

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I've always held the belief that the RIAA's main goal is to eventually have jukeboxes in everyone's homes.  You want to hear a song?  Drop a quarter.  Every monday, hired goons go house to house collecting quarters.
That would be funny if it wasn't so believable :|
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2006, 10:07:35 AM »

i just fear the day that we'll be forced to purchase limited public performance rights in order to legally whistle or hum while in a public setting.

and i also fear the day that everyone is required to listen to their music on headphones at low volume. after all, when you've got your stereo cranked up high, people who don't actually own your cd can HEAR it. and worse still, they may get enjoyment out of listening to something they haven't yet purchased.

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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2006, 01:05:41 PM »

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i just fear the day that we'll be forced to purchase limited public performance rights in order to legally whistle or hum while in a public setting.
What, you didn't send a check to that little old lady in Dubuque, Iowa the last time you sang "Happy Birthday"?
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2006, 01:43:53 PM »

How would we send money to the pits of hell where so much pop music comes from?
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2006, 05:56:07 PM »

The RIAA is up to their old tricks again, I see.
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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2007, 11:51:30 AM »

Even more evidence that the RIAA turns a better profit from lawsuits than from selling crappy music.

The article itself is short enough, but there are plenty of insightful comments (as well as the usual crop of not-so-insightful ones).
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