The Phorum
May 25, 2012, 03:10:30 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
News: Spoon.
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register PhAQ  
Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
Author Topic: Artists you've disowned  (Read 2935 times)
bloop
Phorum Phenomenon
***********
Posts: 7220



View Profile
« Reply #40 on: April 17, 2006, 07:36:16 AM »

I'm with murlough on Coldplay.  I think all their albums have a handful of good songs and a fair amount of filler.  There is something about X&Y that made that more noticeable, though.

Stevie Wonder - what happened that caused him to abandon anything resembling the interesting?

Rolling Stones - duh.  Their older albums are still very good, though.  A Bigger Bang wasn't awful, truth be told, but it wasn't enough to really renew interest.

Metallica - another duh.  If they ever decided to revisit their 80s muse, I'll be back, though.

Weezer - I bought Maladroit.  I never listen to it now, and Make Believe was worse.

Switchfoot's last album was a bit of a disappointment, but I still like them.

R.E.M. needs to soon make something attention-worthy.

A band of some name featuring Billy Corgan needs to as well, for that matter.

Creed, although I liked them in a sort of half-assed way to begin with.  All Creed-relateds just don't interest me at all.

P.O.D. is kind of boring me, but I was never big into them anyway.

Since I didn't like many of them in the first place, I didn't have to watch my favorite CCM bands become bland soccer mom music, or whatever, so I don't have as much to list here that I can name off the top of my head.
Logged

Enjoy our pub. user/pw: thephorum

Follow me on Grooveshark or Spotify. username: iceybloop
Guest
Guest
« Reply #41 on: April 17, 2006, 07:56:21 AM »

Quote

Stevie Wonder - what happened that caused him to abandon anything resembling the interesting?
 
I thought A Time To Love had some really good songs on it.


Anywho, my list consists of:

Switchfoot
Carman
Yellowcard
Nelly
KJ-52

And all the crappy stuff I listened to on my local christian radio station when I first got into music.
Logged
Silvah
Phrequent Poster
***
Posts: 262


View Profile WWW
« Reply #42 on: April 17, 2006, 07:56:55 AM »

^Twas me...  
Logged
bloop
Phorum Phenomenon
***********
Posts: 7220



View Profile
« Reply #43 on: April 17, 2006, 07:58:44 AM »

« Last Edit: April 17, 2006, 08:01:04 AM by bloop » Logged

Enjoy our pub. user/pw: thephorum

Follow me on Grooveshark or Spotify. username: iceybloop
Tom
Guest
« Reply #44 on: April 17, 2006, 10:24:37 AM »

Quote
If I followed down the Point of Grace and Carman path early, who knows what kind of junk I'd be listening to now.
it was even harder for me to avoid POG considering they hail from Arkansas. i saw them at church camp twice as a kid when they were known as Say So. they were really nice ladies, but that style of music doesn't draw me in like it did when i was a kid.

and sadly, yes i did listen to Carman as a youth.

other artists i have disowned:

Offspring (anything after Smash)

INXS (anything with their new lead singer...they should have picked Marty)

Gary Numan (because he's gotten crazy scary with his anti-God lyrics)

The Fiery Furnaces (i'm beginning to think Blueberry Boat was a fluke. i just don't dig their other stuff.)

Placebo (they used to have some great self-absorbed tunes. now they just sound whiney.)
Logged
bloop
Phorum Phenomenon
***********
Posts: 7220



View Profile
« Reply #45 on: April 17, 2006, 01:04:32 PM »

Quote
The Fiery Furnaces (i'm beginning to think Blueberry Boat was a fluke. i just don't dig their other stuff.)
 
Just wondering, have you heard Bitter Tea yet?  I think it's rather good, actually.  I never bothered with Rehearsing My Choir as it scared me a bit, but EP was decent.

Quote
Offspring (anything after Smash)

I only know their radio hits.  I can generally listen to them without turning the radio off anyway.

Quote
INXS (anything with their new lead singer...they should have picked Marty)

What I know of them stops after Kick.

Quote
Placebo (they used to have some great self-absorbed tunes. now they just sound whiney.)

True.
Logged

Enjoy our pub. user/pw: thephorum

Follow me on Grooveshark or Spotify. username: iceybloop
murlough23
Phorum Phenomenon
***********
Posts: 13586


I'm different.


View Profile WWW
« Reply #46 on: April 17, 2006, 01:33:05 PM »

Quote
Since I didn't like many of them in the first place, I didn't have to watch my favorite CCM bands become bland soccer mom music, or whatever, so I don't have as much to list here that I can name off the top of my head.
This is an interesting point - it does seem like back in the day, there was CCM pop music, which was generally for the older crowd and which deominated Christian radio, and then there was Christian rock (and more "fringe" genres like Christian metal, Christian rap, Christian dance, etc.) that were targeted mostly at youth, and weren't afraid to be a little more extreme. Then, something happened. At some point, a lot of the rock bands and other, more "extreme" acts (that's a relative term in case anyone hadn't guessed) started getting played on more forward-thinking Christian stations. This was cool for a while, until enough artists and labels caught on to the idea that they could get played more if they recorded more AC-friendly pop songs. Some bands were always good at the pop/rock mix - PfR being a great example of a band who did this right - but others just dulled their edges, and I think that when you combine this with the emergence of "modern worship" at around the turn of the century, it caused most of the niche markets to collapse, pulling all of the artists together into a bigger pool of radio-friendly CCM, but leaving out the artists who didn't really want to leave the fringes. So now a lot of those fringe artists, or any new ones to come about in the meantime, often have to look outside of the Nasvhille CCM world for an audience, even if they're Christians who want to minister to Christians.
Logged
danny316
Phorum 1k Member
*******
Posts: 1220



View Profile
« Reply #47 on: June 10, 2006, 02:52:03 PM »

Yes, I've been working on a list for this thread on-and-off for two months....

I wouldn't say that I've disowned all of these, but they are bands who haven't been doing as much for me recently for some reason or another.

KJ-52 - Those guest appearances on Collaborations tricked me. I still like some of the better songs here, like the ones he did with Mars Ill and Pigeon John. Then he had to try the "more of the same" trick, and he couldn't even keep up with the standard set by some of the guests on his album.

Third Day - I really wanted to like these guys. I kind of liked a few of their singles. Once I started to pay more attention to them, I realized that they, like most Christian rock groups, are of the devil.

MWS - Much like Third Day, I liked some of the earlier singles I heard, but was repulsed once I got closer to the albums. Actually, I saw both MWS and Third Day at Creation fest one year and they both repulsed me with their satanic ways live as well. I didn't actually walk out on MWS (at the time I didn't mind boring praise music), but I did walk out on Third Day. Both bands are of the devil, and hence, completely blacklisted for me, unless Corrupt Christianity announces a job opening.

Newsboys / Steve Taylor - It was easy for me to enjoy these guys back when I still could put up with Steve Taylor most of the time. He's still a great lyricist, but I take issue with a number of his beliefs, and frankly, they drag down both Steve's solo material and some of the better Newsboys songs. Also, I didn't care much for either worship album I've heard. Truth be told, I still like most of the highlights from both Steve and the Newsboys, even though I find some of their other stuff merely tolerable most of the time. C'mon, "I Want to Be A Clone" and "Lost the Plot" are just great songs.

U2 - In Christian music, it's expected that you will rip off a popular mainstream group from a few years back when coming up with "your sound". It's a little bizarre, though, when you, as a so-so Christian rock group, rip off your earlier selves, the biggest band in the world. I still listen to all periods of these guys, but c'mon, they've totally jumped the shark with those last two albums.

Paul Wright - I liked his first single but was never completely into his first album, which only had a few decent songs. Then he kind of disappeared.

Creed and P.O.D. - The singles seemed so good, so what happened on the albums?

Vanessa Carlton - You'd think that her label would have produced her album very differently than they did. Some of those songs should have been thrown out, and the dated feel of a few of the tracks was absurd considering how enjoyable the singles were. Of course, when I say singles, I'm including her 'Stones cover but not "Pretty Baby".

Sonicflood - So, how long have you been a member of Sonicflood? So the rest of the band started a few years before you? Wait a second, you're not even the same band? Who are you greedy sickos?

tobyMac - OK, variety is a good thing when you're starting a CD collection. However, once you have a few, you start to look for quality, and well...this album didn't have as much quality as it had variety. I think it was a good purchase for when I bought it, but I also think I made a good decision by giving it to a friend now that it's outstayed its welcome here. (To those who know who you are, shove it.)


I'm still holding out for them, but I probably shouldn't be:

Lifehouse - Good first two albums, mediocre third album, so-so live show, but they had a great opening act.

Switchfoot - Since when did Switchfoot need fairly generic songs to pad out their albums? I like enough of Nothing Is Sound to not dismiss it completely, but c'mon "We Are One Tonight"? What is that crap?

Fold Zandura - You broke up and did WHAT?!?! for the rest of your careers? Big mistakes, all of it.

Jenny Lewis With the Watson Twins - Album is just so-so, live show a bit better, but the new songs played at the live show are (with one exception) better than the album cuts. Alas, though, the vocals make me melt, and I do like some musical subtlety....

The Arcade Fire - Because, yeah, right, they're totally going to top "Funeral". Suuuure they will.

Jars of Clay - These guys are still one of my favorite bands, but after "Furthermore", "The Eleventh Hour", and "Redemption Songs", it's getting to the point where I think nearly half of their stuff isn't that good. Four really good (if not great) albums is a decent track record, but once you throw in four fairly dull discs on top of that, it starts to look pretty bad.

Tyler Burkum - Let's face it, he's been the talented guy in Audio A for a while now. He has as much potential as a post-AA solo artist as the band had together in the first place.

Sam Phillips - Yes, I'm ready for the stoning. Seriously though, can't she try to do a bit more on one album sometime? The Turning was so-so pop, Martinis and Bikinis decent Beatlesque stuff, the Fan Dance a short but decent set of songs, and A Boot and A Shoe an overstatement in the subtlety department. Put together, I think she might have one full disc of material that I really love. I mean, she's a talented artist and all, but would it kill her to try more than one major idea per album?

Jennifer Knapp - You are alive, right? Right?

Cool Hand Luke - So how many of the band members are ACTUALLY part of the big reunion thing? Just one? Isn't that a little strange?

Relient K - These guys have enough good songs to make me think that they're still worthwhile, but truth be told, I can't listen to any of their albums from start-to-finish anymore. I made myself a best-of-Relient K mix that I'm pretty happy with though, and I was able to fill a good 80 minutes without a problem.

Barenaked Ladies - "Stunt" and "Maroon" are good albums. Not great, but very enjoyable for the most part. I don't like any post-Maroon singles that I've heard from them though. I should try to find some of their earlier stuff before giving up on them, I think.


I have a new catagory to add: Bands I keep changing my mind on because they both scare me away and impress me at random.

Rebecca St. James - So-so radio singles. Great live show, for the most part. So-so album.

Sanctus Real - Decent first single. Terrible live show. Decent U2 cover. So-so follow-up single. Great live show. Decent CD. Terrible first-single-on-next-CD.

Caedmon's Call - Hated the first song I heard, liked the next, began to tolerate them in general after a while. Then I heard a few songs I really didn't like from what Murlough makes sound like their dark ages. Then I splurged on their self-titled and was impressed (I still don't care for Caedmon's as a band, but I think their self-titled is one of the best CCM albums I've heard).

The Violet Burning - Wanted to like them because Nakedprey and other people whose tastes seemed similar to mine liked them. Splurged on CD and had a hard time getting into it. Realized a few months later when trying to give it another chance that I had missed a truly great album. Fell in love with that CD, then bought another CD, only to find out that their newer stuff isn't anywhere near as good. Then I heard their new one, which was decent enough, I guess, although nothing like their self-titled.

Astronaut Pushers - Matt Slocum's in a new band! Erm, the early streams don't sound exciting. Later heard the EP and a live show and realized how good they were. Now I'm afraid they'll falter when they do release a proper album.

Threefold - Good guests on second album, but the album's not that good. The guests alone attracted me to check them out at a live show, and they do a great show. Since I really liked a little more than half of their second album, I checked out their first, which really isn't anything exciting.

Burlap to Cashmere / Steven Delopoulos - I hated "Basic Instructions", liked the downloads on Steven's site, kind of liked "Eileen's Song", then I got Steven's album and it had to grow on me (but now I love it). After getting into Steven's album several months after buying it, I went to see him live, and didn't like the show at first. Once he played "Jungle Trail" for me after the show, I decided that, on a whole, the show wasn't bad, but it might have gone a bit too far in the "intimate" catagory since he focused on his favorites by other people instead of his own material, and since, well, about 8 other people showed up. Cue long period of contemplating the merits of the "intimate" concert style.

Plumb - Decent singles, so-so live show, great debut album.

John Reuben - Decent singles, so-so live show, better live show, so-so album (Hindsight), solid live show, solid album (Professional Rapper), didn't care for follow-up single (Nuisance). I probably would have loved his serious side-project if that came to fruition, but I'm less than excited about the concept of marrying half of that with an album of party music, so I won't check out his latest until I see it cheap sometime.

Thousand Foot Krutch - Entertaining singles, so-so second album, good live show. They're more about being a fun live band than a creative force and they know it, and that tends to give me a mixed reaction (see Audio Adrenaline).

Steven Curtis Chapman - Yeah, he's generic AC-pop by choice, but he has some decent songs. His singles get mixed reactions from me, but I liked him live at Creation fest. I bought "Declaration" on the cheap but then never felt the urge to give it a shot (although I really should).


I agree with plvarona's first comments on Out of Eden, Tait, and Tree63. I think dgp summed up the Paul Colman Trio pretty well, although I kind of agree with murlough's response to that too. He wasn't always a jerk about the hand motions, you know, and he actually forgot about them for a while there. I know the kid who reminded him about them, and asked him to start doing them again, actually. She's a real snob about getting people to do them.

I actually listen to Coldplay more now than I did in the first place. Parachutes is a bit of a grower, if you ask me. "Shiver" is the high point (of their career), and the other songs are just a bit too subtle if you ask me.
Logged

Someday, Dan will make a site with nothing but pictures of amusing stolen avatars.
bloop
Phorum Phenomenon
***********
Posts: 7220



View Profile
« Reply #48 on: June 10, 2006, 04:41:42 PM »

Quote
The Arcade Fire - Because, yeah, right, they're totally going to top "Funeral". Suuuure they will.

It's a little early to anticipate a sophomore slump, isn't it?  Anything's possible at this stage in the game.
Logged

Enjoy our pub. user/pw: thephorum

Follow me on Grooveshark or Spotify. username: iceybloop
dgp11776
Phorum Phenomenon
***********
Posts: 4120


Family Man


View Profile
« Reply #49 on: June 10, 2006, 05:56:36 PM »

Tyler Burkum - Let's face it, he's been the talented guy in Audio A for a while now. He has as much potential as a post-AA solo artist as the band had together in the first place.
Based on the songs on his myspace page, he could be great...the type of stuff even Josh and bloop could like.  I mean, heck, he lists Dylan, Johnny Cash, and Wilco as artists he likes, among others.  I love his demo songs especially.

http://www.myspace.com/tylerburkum
Logged
Waltrane
Inphrequent Poster
**
Posts: 78



View Profile
« Reply #50 on: June 14, 2006, 02:16:05 PM »

Logged
ajyouthguy
Phorum Master
*********
Posts: 1677



View Profile
« Reply #51 on: June 14, 2006, 02:36:39 PM »

Jeremy Camp
Third Day
Newsboys
P.O.D.
Creed
Point of Grace
FFH
TobyMac (except he's fun to take a youth group to)
Audio A
Steven Curtis Chapman
Michael W Smith
38th Parallel
Mercy Me


all of those except POG and FFH used to have prominent places in my 128 disc cd case and no longer show up at all, with the exception of JC's first album and Third Day's Time and debut albums.  I've gotten rid of most of what I own by most of those bands.
Logged

"When we spend so much time promoting everything we're against that the message of who we are for gets lost, when Christians are putting everyone else down, how is Jesus lifted up in that?." Doug Fields
AldaForPresident
Phorum Master
*********
Posts: 1663


View Profile WWW
« Reply #52 on: June 14, 2006, 03:54:06 PM »

Logged
murlough23
Phorum Phenomenon
***********
Posts: 13586


I'm different.


View Profile WWW
« Reply #53 on: June 14, 2006, 04:33:23 PM »

All I ever liked by FFH was one song - "One of These Days". I tried listening to some of their other stuff, but got sick of it fast. I thought they should either go one way and be Caedmon's Call, or go the other way and be Avalon.

It would be interesting to hear what they were actually like as an acapella group. Apparently, you can't be that unconventional when you're signed to a big label.
Logged
AldaForPresident
Phorum Master
*********
Posts: 1663


View Profile WWW
« Reply #54 on: June 14, 2006, 05:52:31 PM »

It would be interesting to hear what they were actually like as an acapella group. Apparently, you can't be that unconventional when you're signed to a big label.

I actually used to have the only album of theirs that was still available from when they were acapella. (Because I just had to have everything they ever recorded.) It was a cassette; back then there were four guys. The lyrics weren't any better, that's for damn sure. I guess they were a tad bit more original, but that's like saying the first Fast and the Furious was better than the sequels.

Oddly enough, the other night I was watching Nick Lachey's Behind the Music because I wanted to laugh, and I was surprised to learn that 98 Degrees started out as an acapella group and then after the guy who signed them got fired, the label made them go the boy band route.
Logged
Aaron
Phorum Phenomenon
***********
Posts: 4372


View Profile
« Reply #55 on: June 14, 2006, 05:54:53 PM »

I actually used to have the only album of theirs that was still available from when they were acapella. (Because I just had to have everything they ever recorded.) It was a cassette; back then there were four guys. The lyrics weren't any better, that's for damn sure. I guess they were a tad bit more original, but that's like saying the first Fast and the Furious was better than the sequels.

Oddly enough, the other night I was watching Nick Lachey's Behind the Music because I wanted to laugh, and I was surprised to learn that 98 Degrees started out as an acapella group and then after the guy who signed them got fired, the label made them go the boy band route.


I saw that as well.  I remember them starting off as the soul-influenced acapella group.  Damn record labels.
Logged
ewok20t3
Phorumophile
******
Posts: 968



View Profile
« Reply #56 on: June 15, 2006, 07:26:28 AM »

Switchfoot - Loved the first two albums
Lifehouse - loved the first album
All Star United - Loved the first two albums
Plumb - loved candycoatedwaterdrops
Nickelback - why did I like them in the first place?
Staind - loved break The Cycle and 14 Shades of Grey
Jars of Clay - Been bored since The 11th Hour
Newsboys - Loved Take Me to Your Leader
Audio Adrenaline - been bored since Worldwide
Third Day - been bored since Come Together
Delirious? - been bored since Glo
Thousand Foot Krutch - Loved the first album
Kutless - Why did I ever like them?
Tait - Loved the first album
Staple - Loved the first album
SonicFlood - Loved the first album before everybody jumped ship
The OC Supertones - Lost me on Loud and Clear
12 Stones - Not sure why I liked them in the first place either
Pillar - Haven't been able to find a reason to listen to them in awhile
Jeremy Camp - The Worship album made me lose interest
112
Dru Hill
Blackstreet - yeah I used to be a slow jams kinda guy (I still like Boyz II Men though  :afro:)

« Last Edit: June 15, 2006, 07:28:35 AM by ewok20t3 » Logged

dgp11776
Phorum Phenomenon
***********
Posts: 4120


Family Man


View Profile
« Reply #57 on: June 15, 2006, 07:28:14 AM »

Switchfoot - Loved the first two albums
Plumb - loved candycoatedwaterdrops
Jars of Clay - Been bored since The 11th Hour
Delirious? - been bored since Glo
Yeesh, man...ease up!
Logged
ewok20t3
Phorumophile
******
Posts: 968



View Profile
« Reply #58 on: June 15, 2006, 07:30:08 AM »

Yeesh, man...ease up!

It's probably more that my tastes have changed than it is that they've gotten worse(in some cases).
Logged

Tom
Guest
« Reply #59 on: June 15, 2006, 08:20:00 AM »

Sam Phillips - Yes, I'm ready for the stoning. Seriously though, can't she try to do a bit more on one album sometime? The Turning was so-so pop, Martinis and Bikinis decent Beatlesque stuff, the Fan Dance a short but decent set of songs, and A Boot and A Shoe an overstatement in the subtlety department. Put together, I think she might have one full disc of material that I really love. I mean, she's a talented artist and all, but would it kill her to try more than one major idea per album?

i'll stop short of throwing stones, but geez louise! man, those are some harsh words. but then again, no single artist can please everybody.

if you are looking for more styles from her within the context of one album then perhaps you should get Omnipop if you can find it. it is out of print.
Logged
bloop
Phorum Phenomenon
***********
Posts: 7220



View Profile
« Reply #60 on: June 15, 2006, 08:54:42 AM »

Switchfoot - Loved the first two albums
Lifehouse - loved the first album
All Star United - Loved the first two albums
Plumb - loved candycoatedwaterdrops
Staind - loved break The Cycle and 14 Shades of Grey
Newsboys - Loved Take Me to Your Leader
Thousand Foot Krutch - Loved the first album
Tait - Loved the first album
Staple - Loved the first album
SonicFlood - Loved the first album before everybody jumped ship

Do you still love these albums, or have they lost their appeal with you as well?
Logged

Enjoy our pub. user/pw: thephorum

Follow me on Grooveshark or Spotify. username: iceybloop
ewok20t3
Phorumophile
******
Posts: 968



View Profile
« Reply #61 on: June 15, 2006, 11:17:12 AM »

Do you still love these albums, or have they lost their appeal with you as well?
I do still love them, so I guess I shoulda said "love" instead of "loved". Their albums after those I just haven't been able to enjoy.
Logged

murlough23
Phorum Phenomenon
***********
Posts: 13586


I'm different.


View Profile WWW
« Reply #62 on: June 17, 2006, 01:49:26 AM »

Oddly enough, the other night I was watching Nick Lachey's Behind the Music because I wanted to laugh, and I was surprised to learn that 98 Degrees started out as an acapella group and then after the guy who signed them got fired, the label made them go the boy band route.

A lot of those boy bands and R&B groups started off acapella. That's what you do when you can all sing but hardly anyone can play instruments (if anyone at all), and you don't have a recording studio to play around in and a huge budget to do it with. The nice thing is that you can gt some killer harmonies and improvisation after spending enough time getting attuned to each other in an acapella setting, and that can often translate well into some powerful performances even when instruments are present. The thing that sucks is that someone decided the only use for this talent would be to woo young girls.

I have a friend who's very much into choral stuff and has a real ear for music. She respects N'Sync because they can pull off some real complex harmonies on songs like "Gone", something about the separation between the notes that different guys are singing at the same time not being in the usual scale or whatever. I can't reiterate it very well, but the point is, she could see real talent there, but wouldn't be caught dead listening to most of their stuff because it was so lowest common denominator.

I actually had an old cassette by Take 6 that I didn't like very much when I first bought it in 1994... a lot of it was too slow and not beat-heavy enough for me. And it has very cheesy lyrics, so I still have a little trouble with it now. But I bought a used copy of the CD for $5 while my wife and I were on our honeymoon, and listening to it again after not having heard it for quite a while, I could really appreciate what they were doing vocally (plus the strings someone must have had to pull to get Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder, and Queen Latifah to guest star on a few tracks). There's even a track where one of the guys is imitating a muted trumpet. Not something you hear every day!
« Last Edit: June 17, 2006, 01:52:39 AM by murlough23 » Logged
Naked
Phorum Neophyte
*
Posts: 2


View Profile
« Reply #63 on: June 18, 2006, 02:01:20 AM »

Logged
Pages: 1 [2]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by SMF 1.1.16 | SMF © 2006, Simple Machines