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I'd love a rock album from jars of clay
i stopped listening to them after the second one.
it was like jars of clay "self titled" = amazing
and then the slow descent into christian radio friendly land.
Heh, my experience has been exactly the opposite. A bunch of my friends who don't listen to anything but radio friendly songs don't like Jars because "their music is weird" and the "lyrics are hard to understand". Yeah. One of my other friends who hates anything poppy and radio friendly really likes Jars of Clay. Coincidence. I guess one example doesn't prove my point, and I agree that a few of Jars' songs could be seen as simply radio friendly ("I Need You", "Show You Love"), but they're no worse than "Love Song for a Savior". Besides, have you heard some of there other songs, such as "Silence", "Lesser Things" or "Jealous Kind". Great, deep songs, and I'm pretty sure they've never been on the radio. Anyway, you have the right to your opinion, but I couldn't disagree more. On another note, I finally got to give Good Monsters a few listens today, and here are some initial thoughts. "Work" is a good opener, not one of the best songs on the album (and I don't think any Jars album opener will ever top Overjoyed in my book anyway) but it does an adequate job drawing the listener in. I only had to hear "Dead Man(Carry Me)" once before it got stuck in my head for an hour. Call me a sap, but I like "Even Angels Cry". "Oh My God" is a pretty song, though I thought Dan's rant at the end was a little too close to "Worlds Apart" for comfort. Getting a "Sad Clown" vibe from "Surprise", which I think murlough also mentioned. "Mirrors & Smoke" flat out rocks, my favorite track as of now. "Light Gives Heat" is a beautiful piece, and probably would've fit in well on Who We Are Instead. "Water Under the Bridge", though not one of my favorites, closes the album out nicely. The two least memorable tracks for me were "There is a River" and the title track, but they're still good songs. Right now, I'll agree with murlough and say its a middle-of-the-road Jars of Clay album, which makes it a really good bordering on great album overall. |
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« Reply #81 on: July 28, 2006, 09:30:41 PM » |
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I'd love a rock album from jars of clay
i stopped listening to them after the second one.
it was like jars of clay "self titled" = amazing
and then the slow descent into christian radio friendly land.
i don't know the exact stats, but it seems to me that Jars had about as many 'christian radio friendly' hit songs on that first album as they've had combined since. they've NEVER struck me as 'christian radio friendly,' ever. |
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« Reply #82 on: July 29, 2006, 03:44:22 AM » |
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Woa woa, sorry to make people upset, i'll word my next replies more carefully, i tend to have controversial opinions. The radio station here K-love (ugh) , has given them a fair amount of airplay. And i do enjoy the newest cd. And if anyone thinks i dont know anything about jars of clay then ok, ill just be quiet about it now.  |
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« Reply #83 on: July 29, 2006, 11:15:02 AM » |
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The radio station here K-love (ugh) , has given them a fair amount of airplay.
So that just means they have a few songs that are K-Love friendly. That doesn't mean all their songs are like that. In fact, I'm convinced that radio singles really tell you next to nothing about an artist. IMO, a lot of times the best songs don't even make it to radio. Furthermore, I can name a couple of artists off the top of my head whom I love now, but I avoided at first because my first exposure to them was a sub-par radio song (Jars of Clay, Caedmon's Call, Sixpence None The Richer, just to name a few.) |
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« Reply #85 on: July 29, 2006, 04:10:27 PM » |
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Actually i haven't only heard their radio singles. I bought their first 3 cd's and then stopped. But the fact that they are on heavy rotation on christian radio makes them christian radio friendly doesn't it?
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« Reply #86 on: July 29, 2006, 04:34:26 PM » |
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Actually i haven't only heard their radio singles. I bought their first 3 cd's and then stopped. But the fact that they are on heavy rotation on christian radio makes them christian radio friendly doesn't it?
If you're solely defining the negative aspect of being radio friendly as by how much airplay they get, then sure. Though radio friendly commonly means watered-down lyrics, generic music, whether it gets a lot of airplay or not. I've seen songs be popular that had cryptic, difficult to decipher lyrics and weird music. So in that case, it appears that your definition is flawed. I'm still wondering how all of Much Afraid's singles went to number 1. I mean, Fade to Grey was popular on CHRISTIAN radio? I would have thought it too dark, and Truce is a bit more cryptic than the average radio single. And then, of course, Crazy Times has some odd lyrics. If I Left The Zoo actually lost them fans, I thought, considering how unpopular the album seems to be among casual fans. Mostly because it did not have as many overtly christian themes as the ST or MA. The Eleventh Hour was even LESS overt, losing them a few more fans. WWAI had, what 2 singles, and only Show You Love went anywhere, and I don't know if it was a big hit. Sunny Days flopped as far as I know. Redemption Songs, I think I heard GWLUYH once on the radio and that was it. If anything, by your definition they're becoming less radio friendly with time. |
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« Reply #87 on: July 29, 2006, 05:51:19 PM » |
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I was speaking of why they lost my interest in the first place, like i already stated i LIKE the new cd.
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« Reply #88 on: July 29, 2006, 06:52:51 PM » |
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I was speaking of why they lost my interest in the first place, like i already stated i LIKE the new cd.
I was speaking of your suggestion that they were becoming more radio friendly due to being played on KLOVE. |
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« Reply #89 on: July 29, 2006, 09:50:08 PM » |
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I was speaking of your suggestion that they were becoming more radio friendly due to being played on KLOVE.
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« Reply #90 on: July 30, 2006, 05:12:46 AM » |
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i know.
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« Reply #91 on: July 31, 2006, 04:25:46 PM » |
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Woa woa, sorry to make people upset, i'll word my next replies more carefully, i tend to have controversial opinions. Having controversial opinions is fine. Having not well thought-out ones, on the other hand... |
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« Reply #92 on: August 01, 2006, 01:41:48 AM » |
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Ya your right i dont think enough to say things.
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« Reply #93 on: August 01, 2006, 02:43:49 PM » |
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Ya your right i dont think enough to say things.
Using the wrong "your" is usually a tell-tale sign as well. |
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« Reply #94 on: August 07, 2006, 02:19:59 PM » |
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I'm starting to think that I would like to have the song "All My Tears" played at my funeral. (I probably came up with this after realizing that I could no longer fantasize about what songs I'd like to have played at my wedding.)
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« Reply #95 on: August 07, 2006, 03:33:58 PM » |
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I'm starting to think that I would like to have the song "All My Tears" played at my funeral. (I probably came up with this after realizing that I could no longer fantasize about what songs I'd like to have played at my wedding.)
Funny ... I was thinking the same thing in the car the other day while it was playing. Then I thought how it would go over if someone played "Oh My God" as a feature (like during offering or something)  |
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« Reply #96 on: August 07, 2006, 04:39:59 PM » |
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I'm starting to think that I would like to have the song "All My Tears" played at my funeral. (I probably came up with this after realizing that I could no longer fantasize about what songs I'd like to have played at my wedding.)
Wow.. I was thinking the exact same thing! I was just trying to decide between the Emmylou and Jras version... they're both awesome. Josh |
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I was at a resteraunt. I ordered a chicken sandwich, but I don't think the waitress understood me. Cuz she said "how would you like your eggs?". So I tried to answer her anyhow, I said incubated, and then raised, and then beheaded, and then plucked, and then cut up, and then put on a grill, and then put on to a bun. Damn, it's gonna take a while! I don't have time - scrambled! -- Mitch Hedberg
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« Reply #97 on: August 07, 2006, 04:46:37 PM » |
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Darn. I sure hope I die before you guys do, otherwise I'll just be unoriginal.
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« Reply #98 on: August 07, 2006, 05:00:09 PM » |
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I was at a resteraunt. I ordered a chicken sandwich, but I don't think the waitress understood me. Cuz she said "how would you like your eggs?". So I tried to answer her anyhow, I said incubated, and then raised, and then beheaded, and then plucked, and then cut up, and then put on a grill, and then put on to a bun. Damn, it's gonna take a while! I don't have time - scrambled! -- Mitch Hedberg
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« Reply #99 on: August 07, 2006, 05:32:30 PM » |
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I'm having The Trapeze Swinger by Iron & Wine played at my funeral, so my originality is secured for the time being.
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« Reply #100 on: August 12, 2006, 07:30:44 PM » |
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My review is up, doods. It took me most of the afternoon to write it... which means it will take you most of the afternoon to read it. SUFFER WITH ME, BEEYOTCHES! Um, I mean, please check it out if you're interested. http://www.epinions.com/content_247914729092 |
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« Reply #101 on: August 12, 2006, 07:37:20 PM » |
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It says I need to register to read your review.
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« Reply #102 on: August 12, 2006, 07:40:06 PM » |
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It says I need to register to read your review.
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« Reply #103 on: August 12, 2006, 08:02:55 PM » |
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Thanks, Josh.
That was an excellent review, murlough. It may be tempting to call it fanboy gushing, but in this case, it's also just wrong to call it that.
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« Reply #104 on: August 12, 2006, 08:28:46 PM » |
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It says I need to register to read your review.
It should only say that before it's been rated favorably by a few registered members (that's to ensure that non-members don't read the crap that some people post). I need to remember to wait a few hours after posting a review before posting the link here; I guess I didn't think anyone here would get to it that quickly. |
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« Reply #105 on: August 12, 2006, 08:38:29 PM » |
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I rated it murlough... nice review. Pretty much my thoughts exactly  Josh |
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« Reply #106 on: August 12, 2006, 08:45:22 PM » |
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I rated it murlough... nice review. Pretty much my thoughts exactly Thanks. Now that it's visible to non-account-holders, can you delete it from here, please? |
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« Reply #110 on: August 13, 2006, 06:20:35 AM » |
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On a totally random note, Light Gives Heat makes me think of a line from Jeffrey Foucault's song Stripping Cane. Specifically, the line "burning crosses from our fears" from the former makes me think of the line "bleeding ashes from our feet" from the latter.
That is all.
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« Reply #111 on: August 13, 2006, 09:09:00 PM » |
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Which, ironically, had absolutely nothing to do with water.
Yes I know but I still thought it was amusing. I've always found it funny that they have "Liquid", "Sinking" and "Flood" all on the same album as well (and yes I know Liquid has nothing to do with water). Okay I'll be quiet now. |
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« Reply #112 on: August 14, 2006, 12:36:49 PM » |
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Nice review murlough, but I'm...surprised you do not like "Surprise". I felt a humorous sense of irony in the song, especially in the chorus with the 'surprise' being delivered so demurely. I think someone here related it to "Sad Clown", which I totally agree with. It's one of my favorites from the album.
On the other hand, "Oh My God" might be my least favorite song on the album. The first half of the song is gratingly simplistic, the latter half gratingly over-sentimental. Blaaah.
Tied to "Even Angels Cry", it's the biggest complaint I have about the album - the lyrics and music become too mushy in a couple places.
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And then there are the two "Hot Beverage Songs".
:D Nice! Like I said, a lot of bands have certain words or metaphors that pop up in their songs fairly often. Switchfoot seems to have claimed the sun, while Mae has the rain and the stars (though I think Mae has a song called "The Sun", oh never mind!). |
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« Reply #116 on: August 15, 2006, 05:58:19 AM » |
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I'm more with Starhawk on "Surprise", I enjoy "Take Me Higher" even though you rightly noted that the chorus is definitely an appeal to emotion rather than one's intelligence (I laughed through that part of the review). That leaves "Even Angels Cry", which I think is a at least growing on me. So, I'm not sure there's a song on the album that I would consider weak.
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« Reply #118 on: August 15, 2006, 04:38:04 PM » |
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I enjoy "Take Me Higher" even though you rightly noted that the chorus is definitely an appeal to emotion rather than one's intelligence (I laughed through that part of the review). It's hard to argue with that guitar solo, eh? NP: "Day by Day", House of Heroes |
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« Reply #119 on: August 17, 2006, 01:40:36 PM » |
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I posted this joke on the Jarchives board, in reference to the song "Oh My God", but nobody got it. The band has said that this song is actually the first part in a three-song trilogy. The third song in the trilogy will be called "Barbecue". No word yet on the name of the second song. |
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