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I wanted to find a support group for people who want to wait till November to buy the Two Towers dvd, but I couldn't.I thought I could resist on my own. I had decided not to buy it and to rent it instead, but yesterday I saw a Best Buy ad...the dvd would be $15.99 at midnight and the first 150 people would get a LotR gift bag and could enter a drawing for prizes like Elven pins and Frodo bobbleheads (very scary) and the grand prize was a Gollum figure. I wasn't going to give in and I wasn't going to go and I wasn't going to think about going and I didn't know where the Best Buy was anyway and I looked up how to get to there and I went to work and I left work so sleepy because I am still on Eastern time and I thought I would try to find the Best Buy and see if I could get there early enough to be one of the first 150 people and I found it and I parked the car and roughly counted the people and I went to stand in line and when a guy came around asking if we were going to buy the dvd, I said yes...  he was giving us numbered wristbands. I was number 40. he was asking trivia questions and giving out various prizes like cds and shirts and caps and the time went by fairly quickly and then he started handing out the gift bags and his buddy started handing out those big TTT posters. inside the gift bag was a TTT t-shirt and a TTT pin--I got Wormtongue (those in front of and behind me got Legolas, Eowyn, and Gandalf). I didn't win any of the trivia prizes and I didn't win any of the raffle prizes, but the whole thing was fun (even though I was so sleepy I felt almost dizzy) and an interesting experience and I'm glad I went and I feel it was worth it...but I can't help feeling like a big ol' sucker. [_[ |
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2003, 03:04:29 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2003, 03:19:08 PM » |
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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2003, 06:05:51 PM » |
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Our family bought this special card that Blockbuster Videa has. You pay $20, and then you get TTT DVD and seven rentals. Its a good deal. When the special edition comes out, me and my brother will probably get it.
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2003, 06:46:58 PM » |
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I'm waiting for the special edition. And that's final! I won't be tempted by silly little xtras (lol, I'm just jealous that schilleriana got all that cool stuff). The last special edition came out right before my birthday, so I can get some gullible relative (or friend, hint hint, DvChWi) to get it for me.
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2003, 01:59:47 AM » |
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http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/schilleriana that blockbuster deal does sound good... at one church I used to attend, the preachers would always quote the spirit is willing scripture in German, so now every time I think of it in English I think of it in German. "Der Geist ist willig - aber das Fleisch ist schwach."
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2003, 12:28:47 AM » |
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Well, the DVD is pretty cool, for a standard edition DVD. There is a cool ROTK preview and some nice features, including one on how they did Gollum. There is this little short film that Sean Astin did, which is amusing. I like it. Also, watching the movie at home gives me the chance to turn on subtitles, so I don't have to miss a word of what Gollum is saying. =D I will still be getting the special edition, though. In some senses, having both versions is good, because in a way they are two different films, each with thier own merits and weakness's.
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2003, 01:25:15 AM » |
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Sean Astin's film is great. I especially like the "making of". Andy Serkis is so funny.
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2003, 10:11:15 AM » |
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I agree that they're two different films that just happen to contain some of the same footage. I think I've spent more than 24 hours with FOTR stuff overall. Probably it will be the same with TTT (I probably already have if you count me driving down to Maryville to see it with a friend down there ) |
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2003, 03:00:47 PM » |
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Has someone already mentioned the fact that the full, extended versions of Fellowship and TTT will hit theaters for a few weeks before Return of the King? It's obviously a marketing scheme, but man, it sure would be great to see Fellowship on the big screen again, especially with all the new footage. If they play it in Knoxville, count me in.
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2003, 03:52:56 PM » |
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apparently, in my town they will be playing FOTR and TTT right before the first showing of ROTK. some crazy people i know are trying to get me to go. i want to really badly, because it would be a pretty unique way of viewing the films, but i'm afraid that if i see five or six hours of LOTR before ROTK, that i won't be able to focus on ROTK!  i'll probably do it though...just to do it. |
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2003, 06:03:52 PM » |
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I wish I could but I will probably have finals around that time, plus I have to work. sounds cool though, and fun, especially if you're going with friends.
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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2003, 03:02:23 PM » |
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most of my friends aren't too logical or grown-up. some of them spent the night at the theater before matrix reloaded came out, even though absolutely no one else was in line. i joined them there two hours before the movie started, and even that turned out to be far more than the movie deserved. but it's actually a funny story, because they made up this matrix theme song that was simply "matrix reloaded" to the star wars theme song, and then the local news taped them singing it.
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2003, 12:01:42 PM » |
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I agree with linds...if I saw the extended versions of the first two movies before ROTK, there's no way I'd be in the right frame of mind to enjoy ROTK as much as I would otherwise.
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« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2003, 01:25:10 AM » |
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Yeah, I just spent last night watching the FOTR extended version, then TTT one after another (well, with a half hour break in between), and it definately starts getting to you. Seven hours of LOTR is a lot.  Does anybody else get a kick out of all the acronyms? I mean, FOTR, TTT, ROTK, and LOTR? Ha. I like acronyms. |
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« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2003, 08:14:42 AM » |
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You have to love acronyms if you work with computers.
I will admit: when we were watching the extenderd version of FotR, I kept glancing at my watch. I'd seen most of it before (about five times before), so I can't say it was all completely new to me. I liked most of the scenes, but I think after watching just two extenderd versions I might just be ready to kill myself. Especially if I were going to see RotK next, and super-especially if that meant the theaters would be $21 richer from me alone after it was all said and done.
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« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2003, 01:27:30 PM » |
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Yes, I think that I will just watch the special editions at home the nights before RotK comes out, maybe I'll go over to DvChWi's house and watch them with him (he has a bigger TV... lol).
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« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2003, 01:37:42 PM » |
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I'll probably end up watching FotR and tTT special editions before Return of the King, but not in some big one-night Tolkien marathon. I'll start them a week or two before RotK, maybe even spreadine ach film over two nights.
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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2003, 10:09:24 AM » |
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I'll probably end up watching FotR and tTT special editions before Return of the King, but not in some big one-night Tolkien marathon. I'll start them a week or two before RotK, maybe even spreadine ach film over two nights.
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« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2003, 07:32:41 PM » |
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i have an eowyn button. hurrah for working at blockbuster and getting free stuff. although they spelled her name wrong. they put Eowin. humph.
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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2003, 08:10:15 PM » |
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I was fairly impressed with Miranda Otto's performance as Eowyn, especially because Cate Blanchett and Liv Tyler put up lackluster performances at best. Though in Tyler's case it's probably just because I don't like her.
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I thought Cate Blanchett was pretty good. Her interpretation of the character was way off from mine, but still a good acting job. I agree about Liv Tyler, though. And about Ms. Otto.
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I don't really like how Cate plays Galadriel when we first see her in Lothlorien, first coming down the stairs with that funny expression on her face. and then the scary Galadriel at the mirror...I don't really like parts of that either. but I think she does an awesome job with the narration at the beginning of the movie. and I liked her performance at the gift-giving, when she is..."nicer" (how's that for describing an elf? "nice"?) rather than...scary and intimidating. the only thing I don't like about Miranda Otto's performance is the sword-clashing part, when her eyes get huge. I overheard a kid in the theater say something about not liking her because she has too much white in her eyes and that her eyes bulge and now I keep thinking of that. when I first read TTT before the movie came out, I didn't really pay attention to Eowyn (I was in a hurry to find out what happens to the characters I was familiar with) and I kinda didn't like her, but Miranda brought her to life for me and made her one of my favorite characters now. |
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« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2003, 04:10:26 PM » |
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You're right, Schil: Cate's narration job is superb. And as I mentioned in my short review of the extended version, the extended Lorien made me like both her characterization and that whole area better.
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the things you mention that you dislike about cate's performance as galadriel (ie the "scary" part at the mirror) ... those strike me more as directorial decisions than a specific performer's. personally i thought cate blanchett was great as galadriel with what she was given to work with. on the other hand, i'm pretty biased cause in my book cate blanchett can do no (or very little) wrong. anyone seen Heaven? that has to be one of the best movies of the past year, with one of the most beautiful final shots of a film ever (perhaps tied with the final shot of Magnolia). but i digress. i thought liv tyler was gorgeous and elf-like, but i've never been a big fan of arwen. she's really hardly in the books at all, and i don't really have many qualms with their enlargement of her role in the movie, but i can still kind of take her or leave her. eowyn is personally my favorite female character in the books/movie. she just kicks butt, there's no way around that. and i thought miranda otto did a great job with her. (almost enough to make me want to rewatch "what lies beneath" to reassess her performance in it. then i remembered that that movie sucked and decided not to  ) |
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It's hard to tell what parts about the mirror scene that I didn't like were directoral and which were the actor's decision, but I just don't like her in the initial meeting scene, and there's no way to blame Jackson for that.
Liv Tyler is one of those actors that is skilled but just bothers me for some reason. I don't really like the way she talks or the way she looks, but I can't give a firm explanation of why. And I'm a huge Tolkien fan, so Jackson's mutilation of Aragorn's whole relationship with her doesn't help my perception of her character either.
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I have to agree with Vlad on this one. I think it might be because Liv's face reminds me of a horse, at least how long it is. This is, of course, entirely irrational, but there you go. Not everything can be rational.
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I have to agree with Vlad on this one. I think it might be because Liv's face reminds me of a horse, at least how long it is. This is, of course, entirely irrational, but there you go. Not everything can be rational.
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Maybe he has something there...or maybe it's just her overbite that makes her look kind of horsey. Who knows? LMFBO! Skraps |
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Bah, Aerosmith. Don't even go there vlad!, what part about arwen and aragorn's relationship do you dislike, as handled in the films? I think Jackson over-dramatized it much more than it was in the books. As I recall (and my memory is notoriously tenuous), Aragorn never "refused" her the way he did in the films, and Elrond wasn't the over-protective father the way he was (badly) portrayed in the movie. He never asked Arwen to choose between Aragorn and him and never tried to force her to leave against her will. And his dreams (as you mention) help serve to remind viewers that we're in some sort of twisted love triangle that I think was/is played up far more in the movies than in the books. |
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I don't think Liv looks like a horse, but sometimes her lips look a bit...swollen.
I don't think there's anything weird about her voice as Arwen. it's her regular speaking voice that strikes me as odd.
back to the horse theory, I remember reading someone's speculation that Arwen turned into a horse, since Brego shows up soon after she kisses Aragorn in that vision-dream-whatever-thing. hee hee.
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I don't think Liv looks like a horse, but sometimes her lips look a bit...swollen.
I don't think there's anything weird about her voice as Arwen. it's her regular speaking voice that strikes me as odd. Agreed. She has a sort of lisp or strange accent or something that gets on my nerves. I don't think Weaving does a horrible job, but he seems more stern and less kind than the Elrond I had imagined. I think Ian McKellen or Christopher Lee would have been a good Elrond, but I hear they were both busy at the time of the filming... |
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