The Random Music Sightings Thread

[NewDimension]

I saw that....it was kind of weird to see that commercial with it, but it reminded me when they played Superchick's "We Live" for a Desperate Housewives commericial....I thought that whole thing was really messed up. One time, I saw Tobymac's song "Burn For You" on a Dr. Phil commercial.

[murlough23]

Collective Soul's "Georgia Girl" was into tonight's episode of Brothers & Sisters. Didn't really make much sense, because the family's from California and someone was moving away to Washington D.C. But I do like the song.

[dgp11776]

I haven't watched American Idol this season, but I did click by in time to see David Cook sing "Dare You To Move."  A few bum notes, but I'm always up for hearing that song.

[RedcoatJones]

I haven't watched American Idol this season, but I did click by in time to see David Cook sing "Dare You To Move."  A few bum notes, but I'm always up for hearing that song.

My wife was watching this too (so, by default, I was too!). My biggest complaint wasn't the performance per se, but the arrangement. He stopped after the first chorus, never letting the song really blow into the phrase, "welcome to the fall out," which to me is the point the song really takes off. I know they only have 90 seconds, but the song sounded incomplete.

[murlough23]

My wife was watching this too (so, by default, I was too!). My biggest complaint wasn't the performance per se, but the arrangement. He stopped after the first chorus, never letting the song really blow into the phrase, "welcome to the fall out," which to me is the point the song really takes off. I know they only have 90 seconds, but the song sounded incomplete.

I don't want to hear someone sing 90 seconds of a song. It completely ruins the song, for exactly the reasons you described - there's no time to build to the good stuff. This is why American Idol disgusts me - there's little to no respect for the material being covered by these unartistic wannabees.

[enemy anemone]

there was mention of American Idol on a recent episode of Bones, The Wannabe in the Weeds.  I loved that the title character is as ignorant of the show as I am. her partner said something about Kelly Clarkson and "because of you", and she was confused. "because of *me*??" I have no idea either so I found it amusing.

in another scene a psychologist makes a comment about there being two kinds of performers, presentational (ego-driven, craving attention,  "easy on the eyes, easy to forget. one hit wonder at best.") and representational (wanting to evoke a cathartic experience).

[murlough23]

in another scene a psychologist makes a comment about there being two kinds of performers, presentational (ego-driven, craving attention,  "easy on the eyes, easy to forget. one hit wonder at best.") and representational (wanting to evoke a cathartic experience).

The second would be the only kind that is worth my attention. Though I think it's possible to be both.

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I don't want to hear someone sing 90 seconds of a song. It completely ruins the song, for exactly the reasons you described - there's no time to build to the good stuff. This is why American Idol disgusts me - there's little to no respect for the material being covered by these unartistic wannabees.

I can't say anything about the wannabes' respect for the artists they cover, but I wish the format of the show would allow for the song to unfurl the way it does, with some arbitrary limit to, say, 4 minutes.

[murlough23]

I can't say anything about the wannabes' respect for the artists they cover

I can't say how much respect they have, because I'm not inside their heads. But it's possible to have respect for something and still not show much respect.

I just think it's rather cheap to hack and slash a popular song down to 90 seconds, and essentially disregard the things that made the song so well-liked - the instrumentation, the songwriting, the quality of the performance by the entire band, etc. - and strip it down to a mere showcase for vocals. I'm sure a lot of dudes could sing circles around Jon Foreman - he really doesn't have the greatest voice, honestly. But to use one of his songs merely as a vocal showcase just cheapens the intent of the song.

but I wish the format of the show would allow for the song to unfurl the way it does, with some arbitrary limit to, say, 4 minutes.

That'd be reasonable. That way they can't eat up airtime with Stairways to Heaven or Carry on Wayward Sons or Paranoid Androids or whatever. But they can do justice to most of the radio-friendly stuff that they're gonna pick anyway.

[NewDimension]

I haven't watched American Idol this season, but I did click by in time to see David Cook sing "Dare You To Move."  A few bum notes, but I'm always up for hearing that song.

I saw that. I actually liked how he did the chorus, maybe even a little more than how Switchfoot did it. To me, the beginning was okay, and it was way too short. The producers should definetely let them sing the whole song through.

[dgp11776]

Speaking of Jon Foreman, "The Cure For Pain" was on Grey's Anatomy last night.

[murlough23]

Speaking of Jon Foreman, "The Cure For Pain" was on Grey's Anatomy last night.

Was it the soundtrack for "much fornication" like Derek Webb's song was?

[dgp11776]

No, surprisingly.  It was during the few non-fornicating minutes of the episode, and actually fit in quite well to the theme.

[murlough23]

It was during the few non-fornicating minutes of the episode

That right there tells you everything you need to know about why I don't watch Grey's Anatomy. (Not that people don't fornicate on all of my other favorite shows... but at least most of 'em can maintain the illusion of being about something other than that.)

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Hey!  Some of it is good, old-fashioned adultery.

[murlough23]

Hey!  Some of it is good, old-fashioned adultery.

Isn't one a subset of the other?

[bloop]

They are different in terms of the status of one or more of the participants, but they certainly fall under the same family of sin.  If one is a subset of the other, then I would imagine it would be fornication that would be too specific to describe all of the illicit sex on GA, I guess.

[murlough23]

They are different in terms of the status of one or more of the participants, but they certainly fall under the same family of sin.  If one is a subset of the other, then I would imagine it would be fornication that would be too specific to describe all of the illicit sex on GA, I guess.

I think you have it backwards. Fornication is sex between unmarried partners. Adultery is sex between unmarried partners, at least one of whom is married to someone else. So, all adultery is fornication.

I'm sure every now and then a married couple might actually have sex on that show, though. Law of averages and all.

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Yeah, I was likely confusing "fornication" with the far more specific "premarital sex", because if one or the other is married, I generally just call it "adultery".  However, I have seen episodes where recently married couples roll in the sack as well.  It usually doesn't last long before they become bored of each other on that particular show, though.

I think I generally see premarital sex as a preemptive form of adultery in a wider view of one's lifetime.  Back to the random music.

[murlough23]

Yeah, I was likely confusing "fornication" with the far more specific "premarital sex", because if one or the other is married, I generally just call it "adultery".  However, I have seen episodes where recently married couples roll in the sack as well.  It usually doesn't last long before they become bored of each other on that particular show, though.

I can see I'm not missing much.

And again, there's plenty of that on shows that I do watch, so my reason for rolling my eyes at GA is not because of the frequent fornication, but rather, because of the sheer implausibility of medical interns in real life having time for their entire lives to revolve around their sexual pursuits.

NP: "Turn On the Lights", Sanctus Real

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"LOST", by contrast, is very plausible.   

[murlough23]

"LOST", by contrast, is very plausible.   

Well, no, but I don't think it purports to be a believable drama about "everyday people", either.

[bloop]

Well, most of these dramas lose me on believability very quickly anyway - this one loses me on the "roughly 2/3 of doctors in this hospital are model material" angle.  A lot of shows lose me on that one, but it doesn't mean I can't enjoy them anyway.  That said, I haven't kept up with the new season of "Grey's", and I'm not sure I'll ever rent the DVDs to get there.

[murlough23]

Well, most of these dramas lose me on believability very quickly anyway - this one loses me on the "roughly 2/3 of doctors in this hospital are model material" angle.

LOL, I think most TV shows fail that test. The same thing's been pointed out about Lost, even by its own cast and crew. (Though we do have Hurley and Walt and a few older folks.)

I'm just easily turned off by shows whose ads from week to week tend to revolve around "who will sleep with who and/or break up with who this week? Tune in to find out!" I have certain 'ships that I root for on certain shows, but I care more about the emotional bond that forms between two individuals over time, and not so much for the hookups. And I refuse to watch a show where the first and foremost thing on everyone's mind appears to be who their next hookup is gonna be, and how quickly their minds seem to change about who they "love" and are willing to overlook the obvious fact that this person they're hot for is highly unlikely to actually settle down and stay with them. I realize that sex is a big part of life for your average young adult in America, married or otherwise. I don't expect TV to be unrealistic about that. But I do expect it to have a little more on its mind. Even when ads for the shows I watch rely heavily on that angle, I have to groan and I usually don't look forward to the episode.

(Good example from a few years back: Oh, so Heather Locklear's gonna guest star on Boston Legal. And William Shatner's character is gonna be a total sleaze and hit on her. How original! I love that show for the witty - well, sometimes rather soapbox-y - legal dialogue, and complicated personal misunderstandings between co-workers, but not so much for the unsubtle pick-up attempts. I think we're supposed to laugh at the sheer buffoonery of how unsubtle it is. I must have missed the memo there.)

At least on Lost, most of the people who fornicate get killed shortly afterwards. So that kind of curbs the temptation for the writers to go to that well too often.

NP: "Leap of Faith", Sanctus Real

[spacebrat311]

I think we're supposed to laugh at the sheer buffoonery of how unsubtle it is.

AS a fellow Boston Legal fan, yes. We definitely are.

[Aaron]

AS a fellow Boston Legal fan, yes. We definitely are.

Can you tell me what is so appealing about that show?  I think James Spader overacts all the time.  It really turns me off.

[murlough23]

Can you tell me what is so appealing about that show?  I think James Spader overacts all the time.  It really turns me off.

For me it's a combination of the pointed arguments they always come up with in the courtroom (which are often one-sided, but generally make me think even if I don't agree with David E. Kelley's obvious soapbox position on a given issue), and the smart remarks in the banter between characters. I probably would have never started watching it if it wasn't a spin-off of The Practice, which I became a fan of during its final few seasons. The show's definitely an acquired taste and not for everyone. I don't normally watch legal dramas, but there is something about this show's unexpected witticisms that fits my personality really well.

[spacebrat311]

William Shatner.

[Aaron]

Personally, even Shatner couldn't save that show for me. 

[murlough23]

Watched EdTV tonight, and Barenaked Ladies' "Call and Answer" was in it. That's one of my favorite songs of theirs; I guess it was a single around when the song was made. (Ironically, "In the Car" is from the same album and actually would have fit the scene the song was used in.)

[NewDimension]

At least on Lost, most of the people who fornicate get killed shortly afterwards.

I so had to laugh at that. It's hilarious. I think it's sad though, that most television shows now days, are centered around violence and perversion.... and fantasy is way overrated. Which are the main reasons I don't watch much t.v. anymore.

[cowdude]

Over The Rhine and Steven Delopoulos are mentioned (though there is nothing about their music, just a link to their respective websites) in Ars Technica's article on TuneCore.

Link: http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/tunecore-profile.ars/1

[murlough23]

I so had to laugh at that. It's hilarious.

Laugh at what? The character deaths, or my quip about them?

The character deaths haven't been particularly funny (with the possible exception of Nikki and Paulo, who were killed for annoying the audience), so I'm not sure why you'd find humor in that, but the apparent pattern behind it  is kind of funny (even though that's mere coincidence - Sawyer and Kate have survived the fornication curse, after all).

I think it's sad though, that most television shows now days, are centered around violence and perversion.... and fantasy is way overrated. Which are the main reasons I don't watch much t.v. anymore.

I'm a bit sensitive to violence in cases where it's displayed gratuitously enough to gross me out. Most network TV can't really do that, except for CSI. I avoid a lot of R-rated action/thriller movies due to my weak stomach, though. If something's R-rated for reasons of sex or language, I can generally stomach it, but will avoid it if it looks like the movie's just an excuse to flaunt the sex and language, and there's no real substance to it. I can forgive a lot of that stuff if a movie/TV show has some solid substance, because I don't really expect the opinions of mainstream America to line up with my personal moral values, and I'm smart enough to not let movies or TV dictate what I think is right and wrong.

NP: "The Accident", The Myriad

[NewDimension]

Laugh at what? The character deaths, or my quip about them?

The character deaths haven't been particularly funny (with the possible exception of Nikki and Paulo, who were killed for annoying the audience), so I'm not sure why you'd find humor in that, but the apparent pattern behind it  is kind of funny (even though that's mere coincidence - Sawyer and Kate have survived the fornication curse, after all).

The whole part about the pattern....I found it extremely hilarious. In itsself, I don't think the killing is funny, or the fornication, etc...at all. It's just there's so much on television with this stuff, that's it's so predictable that theses elements are going to be in shows and movies, that I do find it ludicrous but sad at the same time. Sometimes I laugh at stuff people think is so scary.

I'm a bit sensitive to violence in cases where it's displayed gratuitously enough to gross me out. Most network TV can't really do that, except for CSI. I avoid a lot of R-rated action/thriller movies due to my weak stomach, though. If something's R-rated for reasons of sex or language, I can generally stomach it, but will avoid it if it looks like the movie's just an excuse to flaunt the sex and language, and there's no real substance to it. I can forgive a lot of that stuff if a movie/TV show has some solid substance, because I don't really expect the opinions of mainstream America to line up with my personal moral values, and I'm smart enough to not let movies or TV dictate what I think is right and wrong.

Not much stuff on television or movies grosses me out; it grosses my spirit out, which is the only real reason why I refrain from watching a lot of stuff. It's not like I couldn't watch something, it's just I don't want to expose myself to more stuff that is like trash food, than I've already been exposed to, and can avoid. And we can attempt to "filter" all the junk out of what we watch, but I, personally, would rather not watch it in the first place. In addition to that, much stuff that comes on television I see as a waste of time or boring. I also don't expect mainstream to reflect personal moral values either...

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Um, ok, except LOST is hardly trash.  It's a generally well-written, well-acted television show with plenty to ponder. 

(The faux halo thing is a little old to me, personally.  Anyone else?)

[Aaron]

The whole part about the pattern....I found it extremely hilarious. In itsself, I don't think the killing is funny, or the fornication, etc...at all. It's just there's so much on television with this stuff, that's it's so predictable that theses elements are going to be in shows and movies, that I do find it ludicrous but sad at the same time. Sometimes I laugh at stuff people think is so scary.

Not much stuff on television or movies grosses me out; it grosses my spirit out, which is the only real reason why I refrain from watching a lot of stuff. It's not like I couldn't watch something, it's just I don't want to expose myself to more stuff that is like trash food, than I've already been exposed to, and can avoid. And we can attempt to "filter" all the junk out of what we watch, but I, personally, would rather not watch it in the first place. In addition to that, much stuff that comes on television I see as a waste of time or boring. I also don't expect mainstream to reflect personal moral values either...

Better stop listening to a lot of the cliche-ridden bland christian radio stuff because that's about as wholesome as trash food.

    Do you watch TBN all day?

[NewDimension]

Um, ok, except LOST is hardly trash.  It's a generally well-written, well-acted television show with plenty to ponder. 

(The faux halo thing is a little old to me, personally.  Anyone else?)

I never said LOST was trash. In fact, I wasn't insinuating that to LOST directly anyhow, I was making a generlized statement for ALL television show and movies. Now, I can boldly say, some of the stuff that has been in it is trash. (of course that would depend on what your definition of trash is though, so that would largely vary from individual to individual, even if they are Christians....to me, the trash I'm referring to, is sin). Honestly, I don't think it's that well-written or well-acted. I can see where you would think that, and that's cool with me if you do, my mom loves the show. It's all a matter of opinion. I don't care for it much. It was okay in the beginning. I think they drag it out too much also.

Faux halo???? Not hardly. Wanting to not intimidate your spirit with things that can lead you astray from God, is hardly trying to make yourself out as someone better than what you are. I get misunderstood way too much. It's like people just take what I say, completely out of context and try to make it what they want. Sorry if I don't clarify things as good as I should.

[NewDimension]

Better stop listening to a lot of the cliche-ridden bland christian radio stuff because that's about as wholesome as trash food.

    Do you watch TBN all day?

I haven't listened to radio stations much in while, except when I drive, and sometimes on my computer. I haven't listened to much music as whole lately either. Because too much music is repetitive, cliched, unoriginal, uncreative; and I get sick of hearing the same things, and the list goes on and on...with a whole myriad of other reasons... there needs to be something fresh. I already told you why I listen to Kutless, and I haven't even listened to them much lately, that's how much I've been listening to music. We've talked about cliches already, and they're too overused. God's already challenged my thinking. And the trash food I was referring to was, "sin", not cliches. I don't think you'll hear any songs on Christian radio, with much of this content in it: killing people in gruesome manners and constantly, fornication, adultery, blasphemy,...etc.. I shouldn't even bother listing anymore... To compare that with someone singing about God, and their daily walk with Him in life, using cliched phrases, is hardly something to make a comparison with. I knew someone would make this same comparison though, I should have stated what was the explicit trash, that I was referring to then.

Literally, I used to watch TBN all day; it was like life-support; but once again, just like with listening to music, I haven't done that in a while. I barely even watch it anymore.  And, I barely watch television anymore also, because I just simply don't want to. Never did think TV was a big thing.

[NinjaRob17]

with a whole myriad of other reasons... there needs to be something fresh.

I find it ironic that you have the word "myriad" right next to you saying there needs to be fresh music.

[NewDimension]

I find it ironic that you have the word "myriad" right next to you saying there needs to be fresh music.

In what way do you find it ironic? When I said "with a whole myriad of other reasons" that was referring to how many more reasons I could list or why I don't listen to music as much as I used to. Then, I simply said, "there needs to be something fresh." There does need to be a "myriad" of fresh music.