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« Reply #760 on: July 06, 2009, 09:07:44 PM »

I'm using Firefox 3.5 now. The only big change I've noticed so far is that many of the extensions I don't like won't work anymore.

This is the first major upgrade I've had to weather as an extension developer. On one hand, I appreciate it that Mozilla's strict "it doesn't work unless you explicitly say it does" approach because it means that extensions are less likely to break the world on an upgrade, but on the other it's a bit draconian for every extension developer to have to update just to say "yep, this thing works with the new version".
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« Reply #761 on: July 09, 2009, 02:29:54 PM »

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/hea_ora_hea_los_of_nat_tee-health-oral-loss-natural-teeth

Stats? We got stats.

Also, North Carolina totally beats Tennesse.
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« Reply #762 on: July 09, 2009, 05:03:52 PM »

Also, North Carolina totally beats Tennesse.

Tennessee seems to be losing its natural e's, too.

in other hangoutish stuff, I'm looking for ideas of "stuff that gets lost in couches", or "stuff couches eat". remote controls, keys, wallets, cell phones, loose change, potato chip bags...anything else?

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« Reply #763 on: July 09, 2009, 05:10:49 PM »

Tennessee seems to be losing its natural e's, too.
Gah, that's what I get for using fire 'n' forget messaging.

in other hangoutish stuff, I'm looking for ideas of "stuff that gets lost in couches", or "stuff couches eat". remote controls, keys, wallets, cell phones, loose change, potato chip bags...anything else?
I'm always losing my freaking pens in my recliner. I also have a multitool and a flashlight I carry in my keys pocket that fall out occasionally, but I don't think those are traditionally part of stuff that couches eat.
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« Reply #764 on: July 09, 2009, 07:01:42 PM »

I used the flashlight idea for my little project-thing. some of the more traditional stuff is hard to implement for this, so non-traditional couch snacks are good!
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« Reply #765 on: July 10, 2009, 11:29:40 PM »

This sort of belongs in amusing quotes but requires a bit more exposition. Anyway:

This evening after a movie and dinner some friends and I went to a dessert place. I sadly don't remember the name of it now (like an hour and a half after we went there :P), but anyway. They had this cookie labeled "monster moo", and underneath it was, in parentheses, "vegan".

I asked the person behind the counter was in it. He didn't know, so he asked the other person behind the counter. She said "what isn't in it? Coconut, pecans, flour, vegan chocolate chips...". I said "so where does the monster moo part come in", and she said "well, it doesn't really". I said "oh, that's kind of disappointing. I thought you had somehow managed to cram a cow into a vegan cookie", and the original guy said "I'm pretty sure if we could do that we would corner the market on vegan desserts", to which I wholeheartedly agreed.

Apparently my dining companions found this to be an awkward conversation, because after I turned around they were discussing whose fault it was for bringing me along...
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« Reply #766 on: July 13, 2009, 09:06:06 AM »

So I was at a sushi place last night to celebrate a friend's birthday. Some people had salads before their meals, others didn't, and this brought to light the awkward situation of where you're at a group meal and plan on having a group prayer but don't really want to pray over food that hasn't arrived yet. We determined that salad, like the chips and salsa at mexican restaurants, is an NPI--a non-prayable item--and may be consumed freely before the prayer has been said.
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« Reply #767 on: July 13, 2009, 11:01:54 AM »

My family and I usually pray after we give our order or when the appetizer arrives (if we get one).
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« Reply #768 on: July 13, 2009, 03:21:11 PM »

My family and I usually pray after we give our order or when the appetizer arrives (if we get one).
That seems reasonable. For some reason we don't generally pray until the food arrives. I'm not sure why that is.
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« Reply #769 on: July 17, 2009, 10:21:05 AM »

On the sthingyiness of self-cleaning ovens:

So I was working on my cobbler recipe yesterday, and in the baking process some molten blueberry juice spilled over the side of the dish and landed on the floor of the oven. My oven has a "clean" button, so for my amusement, I pressed it. Then I went into my office. Several minutes later, I decided the cobbler had probably cooled enough and walked out to the kitchen, only to find great gouts of smoke emerging from the oven.

According to Wikipedia, "a properly functioning oven should not emit any smoke during the cleaning process ". Apparently my oven is not properly functioning, because there was enough smoke that my smoke alarm went off (which is a pain in itself because the thing is located on the ceiling, which is located 20 feet above the floor, so turning it off is a no-go unless I wanted to get the ladder).

I didn't burn my house down and nothing actually caught on fire, but I think from now on I'll use a putty knife and a spray bottle to clean my oven like a normal person.
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« Reply #770 on: July 17, 2009, 10:24:28 AM »

Yeah, must have a leak in the seal somewhere.  We've used ours before, and no smoke.  Just be sure not to walk within a few feet of it or your hair will burst into flames.  That sucker gets HOT!
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« Reply #771 on: July 17, 2009, 11:00:09 AM »

Yeah, must have a leak in the seal somewhere.  We've used ours before, and no smoke.  Just be sure not to walk within a few feet of it or your hair will burst into flames.  That sucker gets HOT!
That's the other thing. I didn't realize it would heat it up to like 900 degrees for three hours. I could clean it in less than that without my gas bill going through the roof.
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« Reply #772 on: July 18, 2009, 08:49:37 PM »

The post about GATTACA in the movies board reminded me of an anecdote from the first time I saw the movie, back in my college days. It's not a particularly amusing anecdote, but its mix of me being dense and the potential for a life lesson hit me in just the right way and I figured I'd share it anyway.

I was watching GATTACA in the dorms at Virginia Tech; I remember that I was watching it on my computer monitor, probably because my roommate kept his TV far too close to his stereo and it had a fairly permanent discoloration on the screen. I kept meaning to borrow a degaussing coil from the electronics lab but I never got around to it. Anyway, he was gone somewhere. I think this was a weekend given my comments about VT playing UCF, so he was probably at a sports bar watching other colleges play games.

The dorms have this weird alarm system. There are four fire-alarm switches, one per door. Each switch is covered by a shield of plexiglass. When the shield is removed, an alarm rings. This raises the question of why there are switches in the first place if just moving the shield activates the alarm, but the building was made out of concrete and the doors were solid metal, so the chances of anything burning down are fairly minimal. Actually, now that I think about it, probably opening the plexiglass shield will sound the building alarm but pulling the lever on the fire alarm will actually summon the Blacksburg Fire Department. The shields are apparently designed in such a way that a ninety-year-old woman about to die of smoke inhalation can set off the alarm, because I'm fairly certain that a butterfly landing on it would also set off the alarm.

Also, if any of the doors are propped open then eventually an alarm will sound, because the doors are hooked to a keycard system. The keycard system is disabled between 10 in the morning and 10 at night so anyone can enter the doors, but of course the alarm system is always on. This means that there are eight ways an alarm can go off: if any of the four doors are propped open or if any of the four plexiglass shields are nudged out of position. In any case, that day an alarm happened to go off.

I ran out to the hallway. The only other person in the hallway was some girl I had never seen before. The dorms were co-ed by floor so I assumed she was from the second floor. In any case, she was not wise to the wily ways of the West Eggleston alarm system, so I explained that we needed to go around, pull each of the doors to ensure that they're shut all the way, and shove each of the shields to ensure that they're properly seated. It actually took us two passes to do it because she failed at properly seating the shield.

In any case, after we finished turning the alarm off, I was ready to finish watching the movie. I always try my best to get immersed in books or movies or games or whatever it is I'm enjoying so that I can adequately experience whatever it is I'm supposed to experience, and it annoys me when this immersion gets interrupted. I remember the girl awkwardly trying to introduce herself and asking me if I wanted to hang out, but I was just like "maybe later" because I wanted to finish up GATTACA.

As I'm continuing to watch the movie, the slow thought process in the back of my mind eventually clicked a few gears into position, and it was like "attractive girl...seems interested...wants to hang out...real smooth, there, tiger". I suspect I judged the movie a little more harshly as a result (though I still liked it, so maybe I didn't, or maybe the movie was just that good.
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« Reply #773 on: July 19, 2009, 12:18:23 AM »

if you had invited her to watch Gattaca it would (maybe) have changed her life!
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« Reply #774 on: July 19, 2009, 02:23:07 AM »

That anecdote reaffirms my belief that you would have been good on Beauty and the Geek.
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« Reply #775 on: July 19, 2009, 11:51:22 AM »

That anecdote reaffirms my belief that you would have been good on Beauty and the Geek.

Heh, I take it you mean "good" in the sense that my social ineptitude would provide a hearty laugh for viewers? It's possible, though I don't think I'm normally as socially awkward as this anecdote suggests.

if you had invited her to watch Gattaca it would (maybe) have changed her life!
Yeah, but then I would have had to either start over or have only half of her life change because she started in the middle.
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« Reply #776 on: July 20, 2009, 11:34:54 AM »

I was reading this article on profanity which was just published  by Justin McRoberts, and he mentioned a book I hadn't heard of, but it made me laugh out loud:

Oh Shit! It's Jesus!: The Relevance of Jesus Without All The Religious Crap by Steve Hughes.

shock Waiting for the lightning bolt to drop on my head...
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« Reply #777 on: July 22, 2009, 01:32:41 PM »

I just got out of a meeting. My note paper for the meeting contains:
* A drawing of a teddy bear
* A drawing of a pig dressed in 18th-century military wear
* A drawing of a cactus
* A drawing of a windmill
* A drawing of a crystal
* A drawing of a tank
* A drawing of a spider
* A drawing of a sword
* A drawing of a shuriken

It does not contain any actual notes because the meeting was entirely useless.

I love meetings.
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« Reply #778 on: July 22, 2009, 02:09:08 PM »

I'm gazing into the crystal and seeing that the first 4 drawings represent your view of the others in the meeting. the last 4 represent how you would defeat them.
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« Reply #779 on: July 22, 2009, 03:03:45 PM »

I'm gazing into the crystal and seeing that the first 4 drawings represent your view of the others in the meeting. the last 4 represent how you would defeat them.
I like that interpretation better than the one Freud would have come up with, at least.
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« Reply #780 on: July 28, 2009, 05:42:01 PM »

I wish the answer to "who wrote this crap?" wasn't "oh, it was me" quite as often...
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« Reply #781 on: July 30, 2009, 09:35:38 AM »

http://www.pinktentacle.com/2009/07/the-case-of-the-captured-mini-ufo-1972/

I saw a UFO once but it didn't look like this. Maybe it was a different type of alien?
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« Reply #782 on: August 02, 2009, 04:15:09 PM »

Science mimics college life

This reminds me of a conversation with my brother back when we were both in college. We were talking about laundry, and I said "I have a lot of underwear, because you can wear other clothes more than once, but you can only wear your underwear one time before washing it", and he was like "wait, what? Says who?". Funny how a two-line conversation can tell you more than you want to know about a person.
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« Reply #783 on: August 03, 2009, 03:23:00 PM »

This article pretty succinctly sums up my writing philosophy. Just get it out there.
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« Reply #784 on: August 06, 2009, 05:34:01 PM »

Today at work I took a neodymium iron boron magnet and flicked a steel ball bearing past it to see if I could get it to "orbit" by spinning around the magnet (ideally 360 degrees) before latching on. I determined that it's not entirely impossible but definitely difficult. Magnetism behaves differently from gravity because it can be both attractive and repulsive. I thought that the spherical ball bearing would have no difficulty rotating to match the polarity of the square NIB magnet, but I didn't see that behavior in practice. Instead, either the ball bearing would slam into the side of the magnet and spin it or it would deflect slightly and continue on its course. I never actually saw any true orbiting.

Probably if I had glued the magnet to my desk than I would have seen some more interesting behavior, but the magnet belongs to a co-worker and the desk belongs to my employer, and I didn't think either would be well pleased with this. My suspicion is that the NIB magnet is too powerful; as the ball bearing gets closer, its acceleration towards the magnet cancels out its forward momentum. Also, gravity strictly obeys the inverse square law, while magnetism is a little more dodgy in that respect. In any case, I got to the point where I was bored and didn't care anymore, and then I stopped.

In any case, I have now reported on my results here so that if any of you happen to be bored and are interested in attempting to replicate (or refute) my results, you can try for yourselves. SCIENCE!
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« Reply #785 on: August 14, 2009, 08:18:47 PM »

The van had another NFE (near fire experience) today. Always make sure you have at least a gallon of water in the back so that if your radiator or water pump decides to vent its spleen all over your transmission you can refill your reservoir and get home OK (when you drive a clunker, you learn these things...).

That's clunker rule #2. Clunker rule #1 is "always keep a fire extinguisher in the vehicle".

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« Reply #786 on: August 24, 2009, 08:51:23 AM »

Some most excellent spam I received at my work e-mail address this morning:

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From: Tajuana Halpert [Tajuana-hertugel@nailpolishpress.org]
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Executive Newsletter August 2009
 
The nights after you get your order from our company will be the brightest ones in your life!

- You try and see prices are better!
- You see more goods and you’re more likely to find what you exactly need!
- We deliver to any point you like! No problems with place and no problems with speed of shipping!

Visit our shop
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Though I was tempted to go see more goods to increase the likelihood of finding what I exactly need, I decided to decline.

Everything about this spam is hilarious: the fact that the sender can't keep her surname straight between her mail address and her sender name, the English fail, the fact that the message contained a header announcing "Executive newsletter", the fact that the mail address is, purportedly, nailpolishpress.com, the subject line...I was very amused.
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« Reply #787 on: August 30, 2009, 04:02:17 PM »

So today I discovered the amusement that is cracked.com. See here for an example of their site. They're like a reverse of The Onion: instead of making up stuff that's designed to be funny (and often failing), they take stuff that actually happened and craft a funny story around it.
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« Reply #788 on: August 30, 2009, 05:16:25 PM »

was that the new experience you mentioned in the amusing quotations thread? =)
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« Reply #789 on: August 30, 2009, 05:42:30 PM »

was that the new experience you mentioned in the amusing quotations thread? =)
No, that quote was from Friday night and referred to me going to an ABC store, as mentioned earlier in the amusing quotations thread.
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« Reply #790 on: August 31, 2009, 12:36:02 PM »

As those of you who read my ramblings in this thread may recall, I am fascinated by the many ways the brain can fail. One of the ones I've been contemplating lately is the Dunning-Kruger effect.

The knowledge that I could be a colossal fraud completely incapable of recognizing my own incompetence is a sobering one. I think this is why many prominent computer scientists consistently produce code which they then make available to everyone: not just to prove to others that they are skilled, but to prove to themselves that they are skilled.

The D-K effect is one of the many ways the brain can fail by lying to itself about reality, but in this case it's not just a weird, isolated brain fail but a very common phenomenon.
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« Reply #791 on: September 02, 2009, 11:53:54 PM »

Nice, more funny brain stuff.

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#4! Reminds me of a funny brain book.

A friend linked to this article (http://img5.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=001zly.jpg) online recently. It was written by Daniel Gilbert and published in Science Magazine a year after Stumbling on Happiness, so it's like a more legitimate, condensed version of that book; more legitimate both because of the venue and because he mixes in some discussion of brain chemistry to supplement his findings ('neural substrates,' et al). It's interesting to read him in this stodgier, less humorous voice.
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« Reply #792 on: September 03, 2009, 03:54:12 PM »

I have a tower built out of kids' toys and an espresso glass sitting on my cube wall. Atop the tower sits a toy octopus-looking thing named Sir Squish, Protector of the Eastern Front. In his important role, Sir Squish often finds himself in the line of fire. Today he was shot down by a Nerf sniper from two cubes over. The tower fell down with a crash, and I turned around and exclaimed "Sir Squish!"

At that point my team lead walked up.

For some reason he only seems to arrive when I'm playing with my toys.

(Maybe it's because that's how I spend far too much of the day).
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« Reply #793 on: September 09, 2009, 12:32:09 AM »

I had the awkwardest phone conversation today:

A friend and I were playing disc golf, and we stopped because it was getting dark. As we were walking back, I noticed something on the ground. It was an iPhone. I picked it up and unlocked it (it didn't require a password), and was attempting to navigate the unfamiliar interface when it rang.
Me: Hello?
Voice on other end: Yo, hey.
Me: (Unsure of the protocol here) ...this is actually a phone which has been lost...
Voice: Yeah, it's my buddy's phone. Are you at the park?
Me: Um, yeah. We're walking back from the 18th tee.
Voice: Are you going to your car?
Me: Yeah.
*he hangs up*

Afterwards, my friend remarked that I should have answered the phone with "iPhone for sale!"

(The phone was returned to its rightful owner in spite of his unhelpful friend)
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« Reply #794 on: September 18, 2009, 12:34:55 PM »

So this morning when I put my various pants objects in my pockets, as I do every morning, but then when I was getting ready to leave and reached in my left pocket for my keys, I noticed that my little flashlight wasn't in there. I looked all around for it, but I couldn't find it. I assumed it must have fallen out at the movie last night, but I couldn't shake the sneaking suspicion that I had seen it somewhere this morning.

As I'm walking back from lunch, I put my hands in my pockets and notice that my flashlight is there...in my right pocket.

I'm not sure how this sort of thing happens, but I think it indicates impending total brain failure on my part.
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« Reply #795 on: September 22, 2009, 04:48:11 PM »

There has been a decent amount of talk about key duplication from photographs (note, for instance, the furor over the Diebold key duplication hack a while back), but in case you missed all of that, consider this a public service announcement. If you post a photograph of one of your keys, it can be relatively easily duplicated.
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« Reply #796 on: September 30, 2009, 10:31:09 AM »

So at work they recently installed a fire alarm on one of the doors. I guess the reason is because this door leads directly to the outside, while all our main doors have a second door you have to pass through (both with keycard access) before you get to the inner sanctum (by which I mean cubicle farm). This door has no outside handle so you can't enter through it, but it's marginally more convenient to leave through. The reason they don't want people leaving through it is probably because they don't want people being able to enter through it (people who potentially don't have a keycard and have nefarious intent).

In any case, they put a sign up on the door saying "fire exit only, alarm will sound". However, occasionally some people will leave through that door anyway. This morning apparently someone who sits near the door (and thus gets bothered by the alarm) decided to put up a second sign, reading "Yes, the alarm actually does sound".

We'll see if that provides an effective deterrent.
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« Reply #797 on: October 05, 2009, 02:08:17 PM »

A co-worker scraped my car with his grey Mazda3 (yes, that grey Mazda3), and apparently not recognizing it as mine sent out an e-mail to the entire site saying "will the owner of the red Nissan Quest with TN tags please contact me". My vehicle is well-known, and before I even had a chance to say "hey, that was me", I think about four people in the area we both sit in said "hey, did you hit Nathan's car?". Now I've been getting e-mails all day saying "what did X do to your car?".

The irony is that he just left a little scratch, one I probably wouldn't have noticed if he hadn't told me, but his bumper is all scraped up and a side panel popped out a bit, and his car is much newer than mine. I told him not to worry about paying for any damage on my account, but he'll probably have to spend a couple hundred bucks getting his car touched up.

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« Reply #798 on: October 08, 2009, 09:57:50 AM »

In any case, they put a sign up on the door saying "fire exit only, alarm will sound". However, occasionally some people will leave through that door anyway. This morning apparently someone who sits near the door (and thus gets bothered by the alarm) decided to put up a second sign, reading "Yes, the alarm actually does sound".

We'll see if that provides an effective deterrent.
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Someone took down the second sign. As I was arriving to work yesterday, I saw an idiot leaving by the fire door, which of course caused the alarm to sound. The idiot then looked around, confused as to why an alarm was sounding, as I watched bemused from the sidewalk.

As I was walking back from a meeting in another building, I noticed that there was now a new paper sign on the door that reads "Alarm will sound. Don't be an idiot". I pointed this out to the person I was walking with, of course accentuating the word idiot. This is about the time I noticed that the idiot who opened the door this morning was ahead of me on the stairs.

Part of me feels bad, but part of me realizes that sometimes you just need to call an idiot an idiot.
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« Reply #799 on: October 17, 2009, 10:49:39 PM »

I am on the leadership team for the theology club at my school. Stanley Hauerwas is coming out to give 2 lectures. And then he's going to sit down with the 10 or so of us and just hang out and answer questions. Color me stoked.
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