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« Reply #40 on: July 23, 2008, 12:49:44 PM » |
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Seeing it in IMAX tomorrow night!!
At Discovery place downtown? |
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« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2008, 02:37:26 PM » |
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At Discovery place downtown?
I guess it's gonna have to be... we were hoping there was an IMAX theater closer to where we are (basically, at the exact opposite end of Charlotte!), but that appears to be the only one. Or is there one I'm just not aware of? |
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« Reply #42 on: July 23, 2008, 03:00:30 PM » |
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As far as I know, that's the only one. Can't you hop on the Blue Lynx?
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« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2008, 05:50:26 PM » |
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So, basically, HOLY SPIT that was awesome.
Aaron Eckhart is the unheralded performance of the film, I think. He was awesome as Dent/Two-Face. I really, really, really hope he's (he being the character) just in Arkham Asylum and not actually dead.
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« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2008, 06:02:15 PM » |
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Aaron Eckhart is the unheralded performance of the film, I think. He was awesome as Dent/Two-Face. I really, really, really hope he's (he being the character) just in Arkham Asylum and not actually dead.
Well, his performance was great, but honestly I think I would have to lose some respect for the film if he were still alive. Having a character who is visibly dead on-screen become magically not dead next movie is on approximately the same level as "it was all a dream" in terms of plot twist stupidity. Yes, I realize that it was left slightly open for him to be put away in Arkham, but that would require both Batman and Gordon to be in on it. For two of the characters who care so much about Gotham City to do leave alive a psychotic, deformed killer whose very emergence would throw the city into turmoil and destroy the population's trust in its leaders and protectors would be a grievous error. |
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« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2008, 07:19:32 PM » |
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Well, his performance was great, but honestly I think I would have to lose some respect for the film if he were still alive. Having a character who is visibly dead on-screen become magically not dead next movie is on approximately the same level as "it was all a dream" in terms of plot twist stupidity.
Yes, I realize that it was left slightly open for him to be put away in Arkham, but that would require both Batman and Gordon to be in on it. For two of the characters who care so much about Gotham City to do leave alive a psychotic, deformed killer whose very emergence would throw the city into turmoil and destroy the population's trust in its leaders and protectors would be a grievous error.
since they never actually said "Harvey Dent is dead," I'm guessing he's back. |
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« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2008, 07:21:06 PM » |
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since they never actually said "Harvey Dent is dead," I'm guessing he's back.
I've seen more far-fetched character death fakeouts on Lost. It wouldn't shock me. NP: "Rise Against", P.O.D. |
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« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2008, 07:48:05 PM » |
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For two of the characters who care so much about Gotham City to do leave alive a psychotic, deformed killer whose very emergence would throw the city into turmoil and destroy the population's trust in its leaders and protectors would be a grievous error.
Sure, but I don't see either of them killing him either. That's part of what makes Batman incorruptible in fact. |
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« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2008, 08:49:34 PM » |
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Sure, but I don't see either of them killing him either. That's part of what makes Batman incorruptible in fact.
Right, but don't forget, they're perpetuating the myth that he died a hero. By leaving him alive, that would be putting a huge weapon in the hands of their enemies. They might not kill him off, true, but surely they'd be smart enough to see that lauding him like they did at his funeral wouldn't be a good thing. since they never actually said "Harvey Dent is dead," I'm guessing he's back.
They never came out and said "Rachel Dawes is dead" either, and surely she's gone. I have enough respect for Nolan as a director to expect that not every plot point will be spelled out to the camera. I've seen more far-fetched character death fakeouts on Lost. It wouldn't shock me.
It wouldn't shock me, but right now I respect Nolan's Batman franchise more than any currently airing syndicated TV show. I don't want to see him stooping to that level. |
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« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2008, 08:57:06 PM » |
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I'm going with Vlad! in that I think it best that they leave him dead, but I'm open to anything if it's well-conceived.
Daniel Day Lewis as Riddler anyone?
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« Reply #50 on: July 23, 2008, 09:16:33 PM » |
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I'm going with Vlad! in that I think it best that they leave him dead, but I'm open to anything if it's well-conceived.
Daniel Day Lewis as Riddler anyone?
I'm hearing Johnny Depp. I'm not entirely opposed to that, although I can't stand Depp most of the time. |
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« Reply #51 on: July 23, 2008, 09:18:37 PM » |
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^that's what my wife said. I can see that, and I generally love Depp.
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« Reply #52 on: July 24, 2008, 11:30:20 PM » |
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ahh you beat me to finding an avatar of the clap hands scene, bloop.
hm, Clap Hands. there are a couple lines in that song that could work as captions: "sane sane, they're all insane" or "steam steam a hundred bad dreams".
I saw mention somewhere of the pun on a character's name: Mr. Reese/Mysteries aka The Riddler. coincidence?
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« Reply #53 on: July 25, 2008, 07:40:08 AM » |
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Hm, the original Riddler is named Edward Nigma for hopefully obvious reasons. I haven't seen that variation before.
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« Reply #54 on: July 25, 2008, 08:53:39 PM » |
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I think The Riddler would work, even if just as a minor villian. I'd love to see them bring in Hush, myself.
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« Reply #55 on: July 25, 2008, 09:24:16 PM » |
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I think The Riddler would work, even if just as a minor villian. I'd love to see them bring in Hush, myself.
The Riddler is actually a fairly major villain, at least historically. It would be interesting to see Nolan's take on him, since he's generally a lot more comic than the dark motif thus far. I think the Penguin is the most natural fit for both the storyline and the general atmosphere of the series, but the Batman universe has developed a huge number of criminals and crazies (and of course crazy criminals, of which there is an abundant supply) for Nolan to pick from. The Mad Hatter and Poison Ivy are two fairly memorable antagonists who I wouldn't mind seeing adapted. Even if you leave out Catwoman and possibly Mr. Freeze (the characters of whom other movies have mangled into ludicrousness), there are enough rogues to keep us entertained for decades. |
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« Reply #56 on: July 25, 2008, 09:31:57 PM » |
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A friend of mine is pulling for Clayface, which I actually wouldn't mind-- his storyline always had a certain tragedy to it that fits the epic tone set by the first two films.
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« Reply #57 on: July 25, 2008, 09:56:01 PM » |
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Even if you leave out Catwoman and possibly Mr. Freeze (the characters of whom other movies have mangled into ludicrousness) There may be other good reasons to keep them out, but I don't know if I want prior treatments of any of the characters reflect a decision to write them in or not. The problem I see with a lot of Bat villains, including Clayface and Freeze, is that they are pretty extreme on the "fantasy" scale, and Nolan's world is more realistic. |
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« Reply #58 on: July 25, 2008, 10:44:05 PM » |
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A friend of mine is pulling for Clayface, which I actually wouldn't mind-- his storyline always had a certain tragedy to it that fits the epic tone set by the first two films.
I think there were like four or five Clayfaces of various degrees of fantasy (and also various ages and genders). There may be other good reasons to keep them out, but I don't know if I want prior treatments of any of the characters reflect a decision to write them in or not.
Well, Catwoman is certainly a possibility, especially since Rachel Dawes is out of the way and another strong female lead character is called for. With Mr. Freeze, I think there are more compelling villains than him to choose from. As to whether Nolan will allow prior portrayals to affect his choice of plot, well, I doubt if that consideration alone would steer his decision, but I do suspect they will influence it. |
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« Reply #59 on: July 25, 2008, 11:50:40 PM » |
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The Riddler is actually a fairly major villain, at least historically. It would be interesting to see Nolan's take on him, since he's generally a lot more comic than the dark motif thus far. Since the Riddler and Hush have had intertwining storylines (The two worked together against batman), the two would go well together. Have Hush as the main antagonist, an assasin going after Batman and Bruce Wayne, while also spurring the Riddler into action, as a darkly funny serial killer who leaves cryptic messages. One person suggested making him a Zodiac-type killer. I think that kind of format could work best for this third movie, considering the ending of Dark Knight. |
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« Reply #60 on: July 26, 2008, 07:58:40 AM » |
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When I think of the Riddler, thanks to the Adam West movie, I think of scenes like this one:
Batman is reading riddles to Robin.
Batman: "What has yellow skin and writes?"
Robin: A ballpoint banana.
B: "What people are always in a hurry?"
R: Russians!
B: Right again! Now, what does it mean?
R: Banana... Russian... I've got it! Someone Russian is gonna slip on a banana peel and break their neck!
B: Precisely, Robin! It's the only possible meaning!
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« Reply #61 on: August 02, 2008, 08:28:13 PM » |
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Finally saw the movie last night. Kick-ass.
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« Reply #62 on: August 04, 2008, 12:14:24 PM » |
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Finally saw the movie last night. Kick-ass.
Same here. I really liked it. |
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