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It's that time of year for every music publication to release their year-end best-of lists. Here's some that have just come out. NMEPaste MagazineNPRThoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2010, 04:14:36 PM » |
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From NME's list:
I wasn't all that excited about the new Arcade Fire at first, but it's steadily grown on me. I can see it being Top 10 material for some people. It might fall just outside mine, depending on what happens with the rest of my "Digesting" pile.
From Paste's list:
Josh Ritter will definitely be in my Top 10 - possibly my Top 5.
Blitzen Trapper was pretty boring, outside of a few songs. Kind of how I felt about their last record, though Furr was slightly better.
Vampire Weekend is currently my #2. I bumped it up from a B+ to an A- just the other day - I realized I had only downgrading it for being short, and when a record's that consistent, who the hell cares? (Unless it's so short that it's an EP being sold as an album, but this is not that.)
Speaking of which... hi Jonsi! You did good work, but not enough of it.
The Age of Adz is growing on me, but I still have misgivings about putting it in my Top 10. I don't think it'd get the same praise if it were the work of a new artist and didn't have Sufjan's name attached.
Paste's take on The Suburbs makes it seem like their opinion is much lower than the placement at #7 would suggest. Sure "Sprawl II" is an awesome song, but if that's the only thing you can praise about the album, maybe it's better suited for a "Best Songs of 2010" list.
NPR's list is... alphabetized? Did they not want to rank these things? Whatever. You can cut and paste the stuff I said about any of the albums they mentioned from the comments above, since like most of these lists, I haven't heard (or in most cases, even heard of) most of the stuff on it.
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2010, 04:46:33 PM » |
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NPR's list is... alphabetized? Did they not want to rank these things? Whatever.
My thoughts exactly. I thought NME's list was little strange, but I've never been much of a fan of them. The other two lists pretty much looked like I expected them to.
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2010, 11:40:04 PM » |
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2010, 10:31:54 AM » |
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The Age of Adz is growing on me, but I still have misgivings about putting it in my Top 10. I don't think it'd get the same praise if it were the work of a new artist and didn't have Sufjan's name attached. I'm thinking just about the opposite. A new artist wouldn't have the expectations Sufjan had (which basically amounts to the songs all sounding like what ended up only being the first song on the album). Also, it sounds more developed than what one would typically expect of a freshman album, so if it actually was such an album, I think it might get even more acclaim.
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2010, 01:16:47 PM » |
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I'm thinking just about the opposite. A new artist wouldn't have the expectations Sufjan had (which basically amounts to the songs all sounding like what ended up only being the first song on the album). Also, it sounds more developed than what one would typically expect of a freshman album, so if it actually was such an album, I think it might get even more acclaim.
I'm just not sure people would have been as patient with it if not for thinking, "It's Sufjan; I should hang in there instead of giving the knee-jerk response that this guy's trying too hard". I know you would have given it a shot either way, but I don't trust all critics to do the same.
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2010, 08:30:05 PM » |
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I'm just not sure people would have been as patient with it if not for thinking, "It's Sufjan; I should hang in there instead of giving the knee-jerk response that this guy's trying too hard". I know you would have given it a shot either way, but I don't trust all critics to do the same.
I don't know, I'm with Bloop on this one I think. But then, I think this is my second favorite Sufjan album.
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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2010, 02:21:26 AM » |
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I don't know, I'm with Bloop on this one I think. But then, I think this is my second favorite Sufjan album.
The issue here isn't how much we like it, but what critics' reasons are for liking it. I'm sure some generally do, but I suspect others are putting it higher than it deserves just due to the name. Same thing with Arcade Fire.
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2010, 09:54:40 AM » |
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2010, 12:12:38 PM » |
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I'm like "Who with the what now?" for most of their list, but props to them for stylizing their own versions of all the album covers. (Especially because they made a better one for Kanye than what he came up with in real life.)
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2010, 12:23:01 PM » |
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IDK, I kind of like most of the Kanye album covers (3/5 of them).  I think you would almost definitely like the Yeasayer album, btw and, to a lesser degree, Halcyon Digest from my working list.
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2010, 02:01:50 PM » |
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My fave is the one in the top right corner.
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2010, 02:06:00 PM » |
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My second favorite, but I have a thing for claymores.
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2010, 05:47:18 PM » |
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My fave is the one in the top right corner.
I confused right and left for a sec there, and I was all like, 
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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2010, 08:52:08 PM » |
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Kanye and Flying Lotus will be topping my list. The rest is up for grabs at this point.
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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2010, 03:18:53 PM » |
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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2010, 05:26:55 PM » |
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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2010, 07:37:18 PM » |
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The best part of their list is EVERYTHING MUST GO!!!
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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2010, 07:54:06 PM » |
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The best part of their list is EVERYTHING MUST GO!!!
Agreed. While I was looking at their lists I couldn't help but wonder how much of it was truly based on what they thought was the best.
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« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2010, 11:25:40 AM » |
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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2010, 05:43:03 PM » |
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Haven't heard Elizabeth Cook, will check it out. I think you would like Paul Cary, Josh. Love the top 2, the rest can suck it Here's my list. So-so year. 01 | Kanye West | My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy02 | Flying Lotus | Cosmogramma 03 | Janelle Monae | The Archandroid 04 | Emeralds | Does it Look Like I'm Here? 05 | The National | High Violet 06 | Yellow Swans | Going Places 07 | The Black Keys | Brothers 08 | Shackleton | Fabric 55 09 | Tallest Man on Earth | The Wild Hunt 10 | Rova & Nels Cline Singers | The Celestial Septet 11 | John Roberts | Glass Eights 12 | Menomena | Mines13 | Nest | Retold14 | Efdemin | Chicago15 | Gorillaz | Plastic Beach16 | Sun Kil Moon | Admiral Fell Promises17 | Beach House | Teen Dream 18 | Bardo Pond | Bardo Pond19 | James Blackshaw | All is Falling 20 | Sleepy Sun | Fever21 | Elephant9 | Walk the Nile22 | Owen Pallett | Heartland23 | Les Discrets | Septembre Et Ses Dernières Pensées 24 | Shed | The Traveller25 | Broken Social Scene | Forgiveness Rock Record26 | Jamie Lidell | Pop27 | Voice of the Seven Thunders | Voice of the Seven Thunders28 | Jesca Hoop | Hunting My Dress29 | Joanna Newsom | Have One on Me30 | Grasslung | Sincere Void31 | Wovenhand | The Threshingfloor32 | Shining | Black Jazz33 | Jaga Jazzist | One-Armed Bandit34 | Big Boi | Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty35 | LCD Soundsystem | This Is Happening36 | Alcest | Écailles de Lune37 | Denseland | Chunk38 | Food | Quiet Inlet39 | Negură Bunget | Vîrstele Pămîntului40 | Shearwater | The Golden Archipelago41 | Jonsi | Go42 | Big K.R.I.T. | Krit Was Here43 | The Besnard Lakes | Are the Roaring Night44 | Laura Marling | I Speak Because I Can45 | Paul Cary | Ghost of a Man46 | Delorean | Subiza47 | Someone Still Loves You Boris Yeltsin | Let it Sway48 | Actress | Splazsh49 | The Fun Years | God Was Like, No50 | Balmorhea | Constellations
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« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2010, 04:52:09 PM » |
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« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2010, 07:42:09 AM » |
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Pitchfork's list is out, and of course the AOTY went to the year's only 10.0, but I still can't help but think albums further down the list were better, more enduring, and sometimes even more ambitious. I really liked it a lot, but I don't think I'll be listening to it 10 years from now like I have with many of the PF 10.0s of the past.
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« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2010, 12:15:37 PM » |
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Pitchfork's list is out, and of course the AOTY went to the year's only 10.0, but I still can't help but think albums further down the list were better, more enduring, and sometimes even more ambitious. I really liked it a lot, but I don't think I'll be listening to it 10 years from now like I have with many of the PF 10.0s of the past.
Pitchfork's been around for 10 years?
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« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2010, 12:19:52 PM » |
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More than that, believe it or not. According to Wiki, it launched in 1995.
(Kid A is a 10 year old album now, btw)
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« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2010, 02:33:09 PM » |
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Pitchfork's list is out, and of course the AOTY went to the year's only 10.0, but I still can't help but think albums further down the list were better, more enduring, and sometimes even more ambitious. I really liked it a lot, but I don't think I'll be listening to it 10 years from now like I have with many of the PF 10.0s of the past.
What do you think of the song that topped their "Best Tracks of 2010" list? I thought it was pretty decent, but not good enough to the best best track of the year.
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« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2010, 02:58:06 PM » |
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Nice to see that my Top 10 shares an album with Pitchfork's (Contra). Of course, in classic Pitchfork style, they spend one large paragraph telling us about an amusing anecdote concerning the cover art and then one small paragraph saying "And oh yeah, this album was pretty good, too."
I'm glad Pitchfork agrees with me that "Sprawl II" was one of the year's best songs, and definitely the best thing on The Suburbs.
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« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2010, 04:18:17 PM » |
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I think I might have gone with the aforementioned "Sprawl II" for SOTY, or possibly the Kanye track that was there at #2, but I like their pick enough. I pay more attention to the album list.
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« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2010, 04:37:24 PM » |
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I think I might have gone with the aforementioned "Sprawl II" for SOTY, or possibly the Kanye track that was there at #2, but I like their pick enough. I pay more attention to the album list.
I still have to figure out my SOTY. "Sprawl II" is in the running , as is "Andalucia" by Doves and a bunch of others I'm probably not thinking of at the moment.
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« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2010, 08:06:46 PM » |
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Thinking about it a bit more, I'd say the following songs are all in the running for my SOTY:
"Andalucia", Doves "The Catalyst", Linkin Park "Change of Time", Josh Ritter "Circles", As Tall as Lions "The Curse", Josh Ritter "Salt in the Sea", House of Heroes "Sprawl II (Mountains Beyond Mountains)", Arcade Fire "Three Tigers", The River Empires "Thrill of the Fall", The Reign of Kindo "Tiger Teeth", Paper Route
I generally like to have something that was actually released that year as the #1, even if I don't mind having stuff from last year that I discovered late elsewhere in the list. With that in mind, I'd have to exclude As Tall as Lions and Paper Route from the top spot, though they'd most likely remain in the Top 10.
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« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2010, 09:37:17 AM » |
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Disappointingly, Sprawl II sounds better than it actually is. Wears thin very fast.
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« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2010, 11:20:52 AM » |
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That linkin park song doesn't belong anywhere on a best of list, furlough!
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« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2010, 01:08:55 PM » |
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That linkin park song doesn't belong anywhere on a best of list, furlough!
It's different for them. Even bloop kinda likes it.
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« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2010, 06:29:23 PM » |
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isn't that the sign of the apocalypse?  I expected the whole album to suck, honestly. For me it turned out to be a volatile mixture of "Pretty good, in ways I didn't expect for this group" and "Pretty bad, in ways I didn't expect for this group."
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« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2011, 07:32:30 AM » |
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Now that I think of it, Joanna Newsom's "Good Intentions Paving Company" would be in the running for me as well. "Thrill of the Fall" was a good choice too, I must say.
It's difficult for me to choose among the top four albums on my list, and they are all so different from each other, so I'll just leave the list unnumbered and let the ratings tell the story.
The more I listen to it, the more I can't see AOTY for Kanye. It's big, ambitious, at times brutally honest (and loud, obnoxiously mixed in spots, and gratuitous). Sorry.
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« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2011, 01:01:42 PM » |
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"Thrill of the Fall" was a good choice too, I must say. I keep wondering how that song would play to someone who didn't have as much of a sense of rhythm. It would probably sound like a lot of chaotic banging on stuff if you couldn't figure out the beat.
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« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2011, 01:08:36 PM » |
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Today I'm going through everyone's music journal and typing up a list of albums I want to hear/get. Not having a computer this year set me back. I have only heard 9 or 10 albums in their entirety from 2010.
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« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2011, 01:11:15 PM » |
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Today I'm going through everyone's music journal and typing up a list of albums I want to hear/get. Not having a computer this year set me back. I have only heard 9 or 10 albums in their entirety from 2010.
I'm happy to help you with any of those that I can. Normally I encourage folks to buy stuff, but when money's tight and you need it for more important stuff, it's either hear it for free (with the possibility of buying it later when you have disposable income) or don't hear it at all, so I figure the former is better for the artist and for the fan.
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