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I am not a big fan of the Black Eyed Peas in general, but am I the only one who thought that the sole worthwhile part of the entire show was when Slash showed up and played Sweet Child of Mine, right up until Fergie ruined it by trying (and failing) to be Axl Rose?
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2011, 09:33:56 AM » |
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It was an epic failure aside from the visual aspect of the stage, lighting, etc. Worst halftime show since Aerosmith/Britney Spears/NSync. I understand trying to appeal to the youth, but this just means the general youth like to get ear-molested by bad MTV music.
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2011, 09:41:21 AM » |
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From our conversation about it at work:
Me: ...and then Fergie ruined it by trying to be Axl Rose
A: Dude, Fergie was better than Axl Rose
Me: Well, she was probably on less drugs than Axl Rose, and she could possibly have been better than his admittedly rubbish live performances, but she ruined it by trying to be him instead of doing it in her own style.
A: But she was at least hotter than Axl Rose
Me: That's not much of a concession
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2011, 09:47:50 AM » |
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You know your music isn't that good when I'd rather watch your less talented husband in his crappy movies (Fergie is married to actor Josh Duhamel).
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2011, 09:36:27 PM » |
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I am not a big fan of the Black Eyed Peas in general, but am I the only one who thought that the sole worthwhile part of the entire show was when Slash showed up and played Sweet Child of Mine, right up until Fergie ruined it by trying (and failing) to be Axl Rose?
It was almost the sole worthwhile part of their opening set for U2 a good year and a half ago. And really? They're still pulling out this gag as if it were something new? If you're gonna play half-time at the SuperBowl and collaborate with someone famous, you might not want to have spoiled the surprise OVER A YEAR AGO. For Slash's part, doing it with the band once or on a few consecutive tour stops is a lark, but doing it over such a sustained period of time indicates some desperation on his part to be relevant again. In any event, the Black Eyed Peas are stoopid, and I didn't need this halftime show to tell you that. |
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2011, 10:26:51 PM » |
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For Slash's part, doing it with the band once or on a few consecutive tour stops is a lark, but doing it over such a sustained period of time indicates some desperation on his part to be relevant again.
Not sure if it's a desperate bid to be relevant or just a willingness to play with anyone and everyone. I have no idea what his motivation is so I'm more just playing devil's advocate (perhaps more literally than usual this time around), but maybe he's just a talented guitarist in search of interesting music to play. (I note that he's collaborated with Fergie on a few other songs in his recent self-titled album, which makes me wonder if he can't recognize that the two of them are at very different levels of talent or if he just doesn't care). |
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2011, 11:21:10 PM » |
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I was actually washing dishes during the Super Bowl halftime show, and from what I've heard it sounds like I made a smart move.  However, I did catch a little bit of "Sweet Child O' Mine" while I briefly had the water off, and I was cringing. |
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2011, 07:54:03 AM » |
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I was actually washing dishes during the Super Bowl halftime show, and from what I've heard it sounds like I made a smart move.
That sounds like one exciting party you guys were having |
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2011, 01:55:16 PM » |
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Not sure if it's a desperate bid to be relevant or just a willingness to play with anyone and everyone. I have no idea what his motivation is so I'm more just playing devil's advocate (perhaps more literally than usual this time around), but maybe he's just a talented guitarist in search of interesting music to play. The collaboration with Fergie apparently originated at a birthday party for Slash in 2008. So they've been beating the dead horse for nearly three years now. While I'm sure he is a talented guitarist, he seems to not mind pulling the same publicity stunt over and over rather than seeking out the new opportunities you allude to. |
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2011, 02:21:42 PM » |
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You're probably right. I just hate to think of a rock legend like Slash voluntarily associating himself with an act that, as we saw on Sunday, requires millions of dollars' worth of post-production equipment to not sound like an entry in a high-school talent show.
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2011, 05:17:19 PM » |
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The only quality halftime show in recent memory for me was the U2 one in 2002ish, both for the music as well as the awesome tribute to 9/11.
Fergie's wanna-be Axl Rose was ridiculously cringeworthy by the way.
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2011, 05:28:02 PM » |
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I (very) vaguely remember liking Prince's HT show, but it might just be me remembering that I like Prince.  |
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2011, 05:33:02 PM » |
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Just wondering, if you were coordinating the SB halftime show, who would you try to book? Would you weird out the attendees, go for the safe dinosaur, or do you have some pitch-perfect idea in mind?
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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2011, 05:56:01 PM » |
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Given that they seem to have an effectively infinite amount of money, I would keep naming larger and larger numbers until I convinced Led Zeppelin to perform at halftime.
Barring that or a reanimated Jimi Hendrix, I think I'd go for Metallica. They have a reputation for being excellent when performing live (assuming James Hetfield manages to avoid setting himself on fire), they're a well-known band, and I'd guess that the intersection of pro football fans and Metallica fans is fairly high.
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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2011, 06:06:20 PM » |
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I'm liking the Metallica idea. They're a bit dark, which could be awkward, but I think a lot of people would enjoy them anyway.
As tempting as it is to say "let's have a Bjork halftime show", I'm not thinking that's any way to introduce people. I'm thinking for a more modern band, Anberlin would probably be good.
Next year, they'll probably do Katie Perry or Lady Gaga - just a guess.
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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2011, 07:16:13 PM » |
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I'm thinking for a more modern band, Anberlin would probably be good. Anberlin's probably not big enough yet. Plus I don't know that I want them to be seen as an arena-sized corporate band. Next year, they'll probably do Katie Perry or Lady Gaga - just a guess. I was thinking Katy Perry or Ke$ha. Basically just imagining worst case scenarios. The silver lining is that either of them, just by virtue of being themselves in front of a much larger audience, could do something so unforgivably trashy that they never get invited back and their career success afterwards is modest compared to what it once was. |
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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2011, 08:33:52 PM » |
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Yeah, I'm trying to wrack my brain figuring out a more modern band (90s or 00s) that is good enough (not Nickelback), big enough (you're right, probably not Anberlin), and would be a fit for the Super Bowl (not Radiohead).
Incubus, maybe?
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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2011, 08:46:44 PM » |
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Incubus, maybe?
That could work, if timed well with the release of their new album. Also No Doubt, if they get their stuff together. I like them much better as a band than Gwen's solo stuff. |
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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2011, 09:41:17 PM » |
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As much as I like Incubus, they aren't big enough anymore to carry a superbowl performance. Dave Matthews Band could carry the show. Lots of instrumentation, have played in huge venues, and are wellknown enough to appease most viewers/attendees
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« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2011, 09:45:25 PM » |
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As much as I like Incubus, they aren't big enough anymore to carry a superbowl performance. Dave Matthews Band could carry the show. Lots of instrumentation, have played in huge venues, and are wellknown enough to appease most viewers/attendees
I'm down with that suggestion. I've seen DMB carry a stadium show in person. Incubus has some stellar (heh) live performances, but I almost like them better when I feel like they're playing for the music geeks than when I feel like they're playing to the girls who want to screech about how HAWT Brandon Boyd is with his shirt off. |
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« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2011, 10:15:08 PM » |
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The opening track on Big Whiskey amd the GrooGrux King would be awesomw as an opening track for an arena performance. The bass and sax on that song are freaking intense.
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« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2011, 11:06:37 PM » |
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What do you pholks think about Green Day? They're far too punk for my tastes and my dislike of Armstrong's vocals has been discussed at length before, but they might be a good fit (and I'd choose them over the Black Eyed Pees any day).
I'm still pulling for Zep or Zombie Hendrix, though.
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« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2011, 11:27:38 PM » |
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The opening track on Big Whiskey amd the GrooGrux King would be awesomw as an opening track for an arena performance. The bass and sax on that song are freaking intense.
You mean the intro track or the first full song? I'm just glad I got to experience "Bartender" live while LeRoi was still around. What do you pholks think about Green Day? They're far too punk for my tastes and my dislike of Armstrong's vocals has been discussed at length before, but they might be a good fit (and I'd choose them over the Black Eyed Pees any day). Potentially popular enough, but it'd depend on where the game was being played. Anywhere conservative, they'd probably reject the group for being anti-American or whatever. I forget where the 2006 Superbowl was played. Green Day was there for that one, sharing the stage with U2, which was what brought about their collaboration on "The Saints Are Coming". ( EDIT: Whoops: That was played in New Orleans, at a Saints/Falcons game that was NOT the Superbowl. My bad.) |
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« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2011, 11:58:48 PM » |
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Mur, i meant the first full track.
Vlad, the reason Zep won't happen is that John Paul Jones had refused for so long to do extensive things as a part of the band without john bonham. While john's son Jason did a good job filling in for select special appearances, JPJ just didn't feel right playing without John bonham. I do share your wish though.
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« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2011, 05:10:15 AM » |
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DMB would work very well, I think.
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« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2011, 07:52:27 AM » |
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Vlad, the reason Zep won't happen is that John Paul Jones had refused for so long to do extensive things as a part of the band without john bonham. While john's son Jason did a good job filling in for select special appearances, JPJ just didn't feel right playing without John bonham. I do share your wish though.
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« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2011, 10:13:15 AM » |
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I think the Foo Fighters or the Red Hot Chili Peppers would possibly work as Super Bowl Halftime performers.
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« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2011, 11:48:01 AM » |
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Mur, i meant the first full track.
Only problem there is that the lyrics are a bit suggestive. Not that I love the song any less for it. |
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« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2011, 09:38:56 PM » |
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I heard on the radiomotron this evening that the Super Bowl committee may actually agree with us about Slash being the only worthwhile part of this last show. Apparently--and this comes from the special children Sirius employ as their DJs, so I can't vouch for the veracity of the news--the original members of Guns and Roses are in talks for doing the next halftime show!
This would of course require Axl and Slash to be in the same area code without murdering each-other, but if true then that would be awesome!
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« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2011, 09:58:22 PM » |
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Sirius is involved? You sure they couldn't just use Howard Stern as a doppleganger for Slash?
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